Proud to be British!

 

Let's get back to being Proud to be British!

Aims of this Zone

This country is on the brink of a 'breakdown'. Liberal and socialist policies over the past 50 years have undermined the very foundations of what makes us British! My aim in starting this Zone is to get us all thinking about the problems and looking for the solutions.

For too long this country has been controlled by the politically correct, to the point of downright stupidity. Seems to me that no-one is proud to be British any more and I think that's sad. What's happened to this once pround Nation and is it possible to bring it back from the brink of indifference?


Join me in this journey of discovery - you may be surprised at what you find!

Check out THE FORUM - a place for civilised debate and opinion

Please join in - every opinion is valued!

What defines a British Citizen?

In bygone years, all people in this country - with the exception of monarchs - were known as subjects. This meant that they were subject to the power of the Crown and as the Crown was all but at the head of the country's legal system, the people were subject to the strict legal structure of the nation. Citizens 'power' as might have been found in Ancient Greece or Rome, did not exist. Everyone in England was subject to the absolute authority of the monarch.

The movement that lead to drive for equal rights, put an end to the notion that monarchs had absolute power. From the time of James I on, the belief that kings and queens had overwhelming power was diluted. In 1649, 'citizens' signed the death warrant of Charles I who was executed at Whitehall in January of that year. From this occurrence on, citizens rights became more obvious. In Britain these rights were held by the few, but they were a direct balance to absolute monarchical rule. The Restoration of Charles II in 1660 took place on Parliament's terms.

Citizenship implies that everybody has access to the same rights. Historically this did not happen as up to 1918, women did not have the right to vote in Britain. Now, the word is used to describe a society where everybody has an equal entitlement to rights.

In Britain we are both citizens and subjects. We all, as citizens, have access to the same rights. We all are protected by the same laws. We are also still subjects. Not to monarchical power but to the law of the land. In theory, citizens have to accept that they have obligations under the law of the land. A failure to respect these obligations, must question that person's acceptance of the widely accepted view of citizenship. A good citizen

obeys the law

pays taxes

respects those who have been handed authority by the people.

Help on how to use THE FORUM

Seeing that Betaville is still in 'beta' mode, the route to The Forum is still a little shaky and long winded. Don't be put off by this - it might take a little longer to find your way there but the results will be well worth the effort!

Here's the ROADMAP :)

First CLICK on the MAIN FORUM.
Then CLICK on the 'Forum' tag at the top of the page, this will take you to the forum topics.
Choose the topic you wish to post in and CLICK!
Eureka! You made it!

While it is set to allow anyone to post, you may find it will expect you to 'join the Group' - easy to do and it'll be great to have you as a member of the Proud to be British Forum.

Members will be able to contact each other, voice their opinions and just generally interact with each other as an intergral part of this exciting new venture - I look forward to  hearing your  valued opinions!

Does uncontrolled immigration cause an increase in crime?

Police called to urgent migrant crime summit

 

Police chiefs have been called to an urgent Government summit to discuss fears that mass immigration is undermining policing.

Jacqui Smith, the Home Secretary, has convened the meeting after chief constables warned her that they do not have the manpower to cope with suddenly enlarged local populations.

 

Miss Smith acknowledged the police chiefs' concerns in a letter to Ken Jones, president of the Association of Chief Police Officers.

A copy of the letter, which proposes meetings with 47 police chiefs, was leaked last night.

Miss Smith writes: "A number of chief constables have expressed public concern about the impact of migrants on police resources."

Read more HERE

 

Is it time to face up to the facts?

Don't blame the immigrants - it's British children who are trouble in the classroom

 

Finishing my mug of coffee, I gather up a stack of marking and head for the door.

I'm steeling myself to exchange the civility of the staffroom for the brutal jungle of a class of 14-year-olds high on chocolate muffins and Ritalin when the headmaster materialises at my side.

Without preamble he announces: "We've got a new boy for you. He'll be joining your tutor group from Monday."

 

Read more HERE

 

Are ID cards the answer?

UK Compulsory National Identity Cards

 

llegal immigration and asylum seeking are currently "hot topics", especially in certain sections of the tabloid press. It is therefore little surprise that the Government should turn to this issue in order to attempt to win public support for compulsory National Identity Cards.

 

ID cards will not deter illegal immigrants, they will still come. Nor will ID Cards allow illegal immigrants to be deported more easily. By definition people in the country illegally will not apply for the cards and will avoid places where these cards need to be shown.

 

Read more HERE

If you immigrate to a country shouldn't you be expected to support it's actions and policies?

Muslim hate preacher ridicules troops abused in anti-war protests - and mocks their dead comrade

 

A Muslim preacher of hate today ridiculed British soldiers who were abused during a homecoming parade - branding them cowards who have an 'uncanny knack for death by friendly fire'.

Firebrand preacher Anjem Choudary praised the Muslims who had protested at yesterday's parade for the 2nd Battalion Royal Anglian Regiment in Luton.

And in an inflammatory message posted on an Islamic extremist website, Choudary viciously mocked their comrade who was killed by friendly fire in Iraq.

His words came as police charged a man who allegedly shouted abuse at the Muslim anti-war protesters. . .

READ THE WHOLE STORY HERE!

 

And great to know that our safety from terrorst threat when flying out of the UK is in the hands of . . .  READ UPDATE HERE!

 

And commenting as the father of a British soldier who has died for this country,

"There is simply no excuse for spreading such evil. It is not right to have people living within the community, enjoying all the liberties and benefits it brings, and yet still considering themselves to be outside the community.

I do not know if these people are representative of the wider Muslim community. What I do know is that these people represent the unacceptable face of Islam, and they are ghettoising themselves.

And so, as both a citizen and the father of a dead soldier, I feel we need to confront these people and these views face on, with no shilly-shallying, or liberal hand-wringing - there has been enough of that in this country."

READ THE FULL COMMENT HERE!

 

Jayne's views!

What a disgraceful state of affairs! How dare people who profess themselves to be 'British' behave with such disrespect for the very people who keep this country safe? I can't help feeling that these are the immigrants that should be encouraged to return to whence they came - with a helpful boot out the door! If the beliefs and policies of this country are so distasteful to these people why would they want to live in this 'oppresive' society anyway?

And if  life is so great in these Muslim countries then why on earth did they leave in the first place?

Perhaps one can understand why some people just want to say,

"GO HOME, YOU'RE NOT WANTED HERE!"

We British are a generous lot - even in the midst of economic decline!

Lets Dance for Comic Relief!

It's things like this that make you realise that there are still some pretty great people living in this country. Every year people all around Britain get together to raise funds for children around the world - we call it 'Red Nose Day' and the slogan goes "Do something Funny for Money".

This year the BBC put together a spoof dancing competition for our entertainment. Various celebrities, ranging from comedians to soap opera actors got to strut their stuff to great tunes and musicals of yesteryear. We had the Blues Brothers, an hysterical take on Britany Spears and the brilliant Robert Webb doing his version of that famous dance routine in Flashdance - amongst others. This one show alone raised in excess of £300,000 in telephone votes for the charity!

With the many events taking place around the country over the past few weeks, Comedy Relief has managed to raise a record breaking £57 million for 2009!

With this spirit of generosity and the ability to still have a good laugh even during times of adversity, I feel more confident that we have the ability to rise once more to the great Nation we once were.

Well done my fellow countrymen - a well deserved pat on the back!

 

oh, and the winner was . . .  Robert Webb in Flashdance. Hope you enjoy the video clip as much as the British public enjoyed his performance :)

 

And bringing you our Very Own Dragon Slayer . . .

Cripes! Boris's plan to celebrate St George (and to blazes with what the PC brigade think)

 

London Mayor Boris Johnson is to defy the politically correct brigade by staging a week-long festival in the capital to celebrate St George’s Day, with the red and white cross of England’s patron saint flying proudly from his City Hall offices.

The move follows a series of incidents in recent years in which people have been banned from displaying the English flag on the grounds that it is racist and could offend Muslims because of St George’s association with the Crusades.

Read all about "Boris the Dragon Slayer" HERE

 

Jayne comments:

Political Correctness gone insane - or at least those that think we Brits should be worrying abour 'offending' our Muslim brothers and sisters by celebrating our Saint's Day and flying our English flag in ENGLAND!

Oh for goodness sakes!

 

Daniel Hannon's Famous Speech on Utube

'Prime Minister, I see you've already mastered the essential craft of the European politician: namely the ability to say one thing in this chamber and a very different thing to your home electorate. You've spoken here of free trade, and amen to that.

Who would have guessed, listening to you just now, that you were the author of the phrase 'British jobs for British workers,' and that you have subsidised - where you have not nationalised outright - swaths of our economy, including the car industry and many of the banks.

Perhaps you would have more moral authority in this House if your actions matched your words, and perhaps more legitimacy in the councils of the world if the United Kingdom were not sailing into this recession in the worst condition of any G20 country.

The truth, Prime Minister, is that you have run out of our money. The country as a whole is now in negative equity. Every British child is now born owing around £20,000. Servicing the interest on that debt is going to cost more than educating the child.

Now, once again today, you have tried to spread the blame around. You spoke about an international recession, an international crisis.

Well, it's true that we are sailing together into the squalls but not every vessel in the convoy is in the same dilapidated condition. Other ships used the good years to caulk their hulls and clear their rigging - in other words, to pay off debt. But you used the good years to raise borrowing yet further.

As a consequence, under your captaincy, our hull is pressed deep into the waterline under the accumulated weight of your debt.

We are now running a deficit that touches 10 per cent of GDP, an almost unbelievable figure - more than Pakistan, more than Hungary; countries where the IMF has already been called in.

It's not just that you are not apologising - like everyone else I've long accepted that you are pathologically incapable of accepting responsibility for these things - it's that you are carrying on wilfully worsening our situation, wantonly spending what little we have left.

In the last year 100,000 private sector jobs have been lost and yet you have created 30,000 public sector jobs. Prime Minister, you cannot carry on forever squeezing the productive bit of the economy in order to fund an unprecedented engorgement of the unproductive bit.

You cannot spend your way out of a recession or borrow your way out of debt. And when you repeat, in that wooden and perfunctory way, that our situation is better than others, that we are well placed to weather the storm, I have to tell you, you sound like a Brezhnev era apparatchik giving the party line.

You know and we know and you know that we know that it's nonsense. Everyone knows that Britain is worse off than any other country as we go into these hard times.

The IMF has said so. The European Commission has said so. The markets say so, which is why the pound has lost a third of its value.

In a few months, the voters will have their chance to say so, too.

They can see what the markets have seen: that you are the devalued Prime Minister of a devalued Government.'

Are British workers being treated fairly?

Labour's failure to curb immigration betrays our future

So much for Gordon Brown's famous promise of 'British jobs for British workers.'


When the Office of National Statistics (ONS) published its latest figures on employment 10 days ago, it was attacked by Labour for being "unhelpful". The problem was actually that the ONS was being truthful. Their figures revealed that while employment for British workers has fallen by 250,000 over the past 12 months, the number of foreign workers employed here has increased by 200,000. So much for Gordon Brown's famous promise of "British jobs for British workers."

Rest of news story HERE

 

 

Could this be the way forward?

Immigration points system begins

 

The government has launched the first stage of a new points-based system for migrants from outside the EU.

It will initially only apply to highly skilled workers already in the country who want to extend their stay.

But by the end of 2008, every graduate with good English, on £40,000 or the local equivalent, will potentially have enough points to seek work in the UK.

Read more HERE

HOW THE NEW POINTS SYSTEM WILL WORK:

There are five "tiers" within the points scheme within which people applying to work in the UK would be categorised.

Tier One: Highly skilled
The most skilled professionals will automatically have enough points to come to the UK without a job offer and seek work or set up a business. This tier includes entrepreneurs, top scientists and business people. Tier One is the first part of the system to be rolled out with ministers saying it will be fully operational worldwide by the end of summer 2008.
Workers in this category have the most flexibility in the UK and greatest opportunities to settle for good because the system regards them as having the most potential for generating wealth benefiting Britain.

Tier two: Skilled with job offer
This covers people with qualifications or important work-related experience in a huge range of sectors from health service workers to white collar jobs and the trades. People in this category will be given points on their talents and will be allowed into the UK if they have a job offer in a "shortage area" such as nursing. Tier two will come into force from late 2008 and employers will need to register as a sponsor. The government says that employers who don't meet strict criteria could be barred from bringing in foreign workers.

Tier three: Low skilled
Until now, the government has allowed temporary migration to jobs in hospitality, food processing and agriculture from all over the world.
It is has now cut these permissions in favour of workers from the expanded European Union, who do not need prior permission to arrive. No date has been set for this tier to be activated. Officials say they believe vacancies can be filled with EU workers.

Tier four: Students
This will come into force in 2009 and covers those paying for tuition in the UK. Universities and colleges increasingly depend on the income from overseas students - and many institutions have developed formal links with counterparts abroad. In previous years student visas have proved controversial, with allegations that it was a route open to abuse.

Tier five: Temporary workers, Youth mobility
This will include professional sports people or professional musicians, who want to "work" in the UK for an event such as the Olympics or a football match, or a concert. The youth mobility aspect is intended to cover cultural exchanges or working holidays by young people. This will be in force before the end of 2008.

At Last! Someone who truly is Proud to be British!

I'm standing up for Britain, says Sri Lankan postmaster who won't serve migrants who won't learn English

 

‘All I’m doing is telling people if they want to live in Britain, be British. Don’t boo our soldiers when they come home from Iraq. Don’t live your life without embracing our culture. Don’t stay here without making any effort to learn the language. And if you don’t want to be British, go home.’

READ THE STORY HERE

and (surprise, surprise) read the shop owner's response HERE

Jayne says:

Well Done my good man! My sentiments exactly - what a pleasure to see someone who appreciates everything this country has done for him and his family and who is prepared to  stand up and be counted!

Now if only more immigrants were as sensible as he . . . ?

 

A Transport of Delight!

Talking about the British transport system and 'transports of delight' brought back memories of Flanders & Swann and a crackly old vinyl LP that belonged to my father - called 'At the Drop of a Hat' and endlessly entertaining when I was a small child.

So "hold very tight please - ting, ting!"

What message are we sending our children?

Boy, eight, was accused of rape

 

A boy of eight was accused of raping a girl in Suffolk under the age of 13, according to details released under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

The case was investigated but no action was taken against the boy who was too young to be prosecuted.

The information was revealed after an FOIA request to Suffolk Police for 2008 allegations against children under 10.

The request also revealed a five-year-old and two six-year-olds were accused of racially aggravated harassment.

Figures also showed:

• An eight-year-old from the Ipswich area was accused of causing a child under 13 to engage in sexual activity

• Two seven-year-olds were accused of damaging a vehicle

• A seven-year-old was accused of theft and two nine-year-olds were accused of assault.

A Suffolk police spokesman said: "In circumstances where the suspected offender is below the age of criminal responsibility, the incident, like any other crime, is thoroughly investigated.

"However, it cannot be dealt with by way of prosecution.

"In these cases, there will be 'no further police action' - or no charge - against the offender because they are aged under 10 years old.

"The incident will be assessed on a case-by-case basis to establish whether any further involvement by the police is required.

"For more serious incidents, the case will be referred to appropriate partner agencies, such as children and young people's services at the county council, for family intervention and support."

 

Jayne says:  "What ever happened to a damn good spanking?"

Knife weilding HIJACKERS? On buses - in this fair land?!

Bus smashes into shop front as driver fights off knife-wielding hijackers

 

A double-decker bus carrying dozens of passengers smashed into a car and a shop as its driver fought off two teenage hijackers who attacked him with knives.

Commuters endured a terrifying late-night ride as the driver of the bus refused to stop and hand over the contents of his cash box.

Onlookers watched in horror as the bus, which was carrying 27 passengers, swerved across a road before going through a red light and then into the path of another vehicle before careering into the front of a newsagents. . .

READ MORE HERE!

 

Jayne's thoughts!

OK - so this is quite an interesting one! The bus was travelling through Brixton which would imply a possible immigrant/criminal connection and the perpetrators were youths which brings in the poor educational facilities and abominable lack of parenting skills we are seeing in this country today.

The fact that 27 passengers (YES folk, there were 27 other people on that bus!) could sit and watch the driver fighting for his life with 2 (yup ladies and gents - just TWO!) young thugs speaks volumes for the state of the Nation. Reminds me of the the three monkey scenario - see nothing, hear nothing, do nothing! An attitude that the once proud denizens of this country have developed in response to a fear of the legal consequences of getting involved.

Shame on this poxy government for encouraging the criminal element at the expense of law abiding citizens!

And double shame on them for taking away parents' rights to control their children!

 

A man who's prepared to say what every Britton would like to say to Gordon Brown!

An internet sensation, the Tory who told Brown to his face that he's a disaster

 

A Tory who criticised Gordon Brown to his face in a brutal personal attack has won an army of fans worldwide.

A video of MEP Daniel Hannan delivering a withering assessment of the Prime Minister's handling of the economic crisis has become a surprise hit on the internet.

More than 730,000 users have viewed it on YouTube, making it the most popular clip on the site two days in a row.

READ THE FULL STORY HERE

 

Jayne wonders:

Could THIS be the man to lead the Tories to victory in the next elections?

 

 

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Comments (1 to 10 of 38)

Darren Horton
Jun 01, 11 at 06:44 PM
I love this site. British pride is making a comeback.
Avril Defleurey
Jul 07, 09 at 11:08 PM
HI, another Brit looking in. Only joined a short while ago, so don't know my full way round here yet. good zone though, will look in from time to time. Coral (Oxfordshire)
Chavie Cyn
Apr 21, 09 at 01:45 PM
Hey Jane, tip : see Pat Condell's videos over at You Tube! He's my ideal Brit because he loves beer! You should hear him:) Nice site yah have here!
Jayne Scott
Mar 28, 09 at 06:12 PM
Hi Ethel - good to see another 'pommie' onboard! Um . . . it seems that the Most Proud to be British Award has to go to our Sri Lankan postman? I think it's rather sad that it takes a 'foreigner' to stand up for British pride - lol I would love to be linked to your Zone and shall go in search of it forthwith so that I may link it from here too :) Thanks!
Jayne Scott
Mar 28, 09 at 06:08 PM
Good to see the old man roaring again - thanks Carly! :)
Carly Mack
Mar 28, 09 at 04:23 PM
You will be pleased to learn that I have managed to locate your errant Lion and proud he looks, suffer no malady from his temporary absence! I think went amiss during the beta update. I found him out back of your zone here, lounging around and snorting at passerby. :)
Ethel Smith
Mar 28, 09 at 12:18 PM
Hi there from a Brit. Good idea for a zone although it does seem to be a bit obssessed with foreigners :) I shall link it to my Hull zone which is about my home town, which has had more than its fair share of problems over the years, to say the least.
Jayne Scott
Mar 22, 09 at 10:43 AM
Hey Leigh. Mike and Carly :) I'm so glad you popped in to visit and that you enjoyed what you saw! Hopefully time for some updating today - thanks! :)
Carly Mack
Mar 17, 09 at 11:29 PM
Came by to see what you're up to... boy, you've been BUSY! I love your site!
Mike Mccarthy
Mar 17, 09 at 12:50 PM
nice zone (thumbs up emoticon) Mike
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How should our Government deal with Imigration?
Only offer employment to unskilled labour
Only accept immigrants with proof of self sufficiency
Institute a 'points' system
Refuse entry to ALL immigrants

Kingston-upon-Hull

  • Ethel's home town in the south of England - great Zone, well worth a visit!

Big Ben

Houses of Parliament

Was a time when we were even proud of the man who tried to blow them up!

Guy Fawkes, early political objector!

View from the London Eye

Looking down the River Thames from the lofty heights of the London Eye,

originally known as the Millenium Wheel

You can't get more British . . .

than the good old double decker bus!

or, that other transport of delight . . .

the London hackney cab!

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