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Appearance & reality: Does it need to be non-temporal to be real?

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Yes
32% 33 votes Total: 103 votes
No
68% 70 votes

by Daniel Relph

Created on: January 16, 2010

This might surprise some of you down-to-earth people, but yes, non-temporal things are real. Many people think that non-temporal things are things like ghosts or spirits. It is hard to prove these things exist, but there are other non-temporal things we know exist. The big problem with this question is we must take the time to define two words “Real” and “Non-temporal.”

Real – Things that exist. This can be tested by asking the question, can the thing affect other things? Can you touch it? Can you trip over it? Can it affect you or can you affect it? Can you sense it in anyway? Is it a part of your existence? If the answer to any of these questions is, yes, then it is real. Non-temporal – Things that are ruled by time are temporal things; therefore, non-temporal things are things outside of the realm of time.

According to modern scientist the whole universe is held together by the “Time Space Continuum.” Our common way of defining things comes from a three dimensional point of view. When we look at time we ask the question, when did this thing come into existence? Where and what was it before it existed? We might look at an Egyptian column and ask. How old is it. The answer might be three thousand years ago it was quarried from a rock formation. That rock formation was formed 200 million years ago by an ancient sea. The sea might have been formed one billion years ago by tectonic forces on the Earth and the Earth was formed 4.5 billion years ago. So, in the traditional way all things have an age. There is a broader view; we’re only looking at that column from our perspective on the Time Space Continuum and omitting the fourth dimension of time. Time itself is a variable in the Space Time Continuum frame work.

This position is not new and was brought to light in Genesis where God created the Universe. Everything must come from something, except something that always was and always will be. This something was defined in Genesis as God. The Bible further defines God as knowing all things; this includes the future as well as the past. The Bible defines God as being independent of time. Therefore, if you believe in Judeo - Christian God, you believe in something that is non-temporal.

But not all of us believe in God. You may be like Stephen Hawking, an atheist. Stephen Hawking has spent a lot of time trying to mathematically describe the “Big Bang” theory. According to this theory before the “Big

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