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Created on: July 03, 2009
The Catholic Church after Vatican Council II is not the same church that Our Lord instituted. The reforms of Vatican II should be reversed, the laity should learn the truth about the faith, and the priests should be re-instructed in tradition in the seminary. A lot of souls are going to hell because they are not receiving the same guidance they used to by Holy Mother Church.
I was just baptized a little over a year ago, so all of this is new to me. But I also have the advantage of remembering my catechism probably much more clearly than most. Also, I was baptized in a traditional church, so we used the catechism that was used before Vatican Council II. In this catechism, you learn how you may know the Church when you see it. The Church is to have four marks. It is one, it is holy, it is catholic (meaning universal), and it is apostolic.
The Church is one in government and in doctrine. By saying the Church is one in government I am referring to the hierarchy of the Church. A single parish is under a priest, the priest is under a bishop, bishops are under the archbishops, archbishops are under the primates, the primates are under the Holy Father, and the Holy Father is under Our Lord from whence all authority comes. The Church is one in doctrine in that every member of the Church believes the same truths, has the same faith. This brings in the articles of faith and the sacraments. Every catholic is to believe that Our Lord was true man and true God, that He was the conceived by the Holy Ghost by the Virgin Mary, that he suffered and died for our sins, was resurrected, and now sits at the right hand of God the Father "from whence he shall come to judge the living and the dead". (Apostles Creed). A Catholic also must believe in the trinity and unity of God. This is that God is three divine Persons in one. There are many other truths that are to be believed.
The second mark of the true Church is that it is holy. The Church is holy because its founder is holy, its doctrine is holy and its members are invited to a holy life. The Church does not seem to have as many holy members as it used to for sure. Even some of its clergy is not holy as it should be. This is evidenced by all the scandals of child abuse and homosexuality which happens among some Novus Ordo priests. This never occurred before Vatican Council II. The Novus Ordo Church no longer teaches a holy doctrine. The Church has become ecumenical. This means that it promotes unity among all Christian churches.
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Should the Catholic Church under Pope Benedict XVI reverse the reforms of the Vatican II Council in the 1960s?
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