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Torture is not the this panty-waist, namby-pamby, wishy-washy stuff they have been doing in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba to the enemy combatants. Caterpillars?, caterpillars in a confined space is torture? Ha! Give me a break. Insects and water on a wash cloth over the face. Some torture. A slap in the face? LOL.

Ever hear of East Timor? It is an island where the Indonesian Army maintains a string of torture houses. Consider being hung upside down by your ankles for hours, being beaten with iron bars, wooden clubs and fists. Burned with cigarettes, cut with razors or having electric shock treatment. As you hang there with most of your ribs broken, totally bruised, battered, sliced up and burned, bleeding out because of a trumped-up charge of listening to a radio or talking politics then you know what torture is.

Try doing a little research on the Batan death march for a start. Prisoners were marched for hundreds of miles, beaten down and demoralized. If a person fell, they were shot or killed with a bayonet right there on the spot. Continue on with a look at the techniques used by the Japanese soldiers on the Americans or others captured by them. Everything from glass rods inserted into body cavities and then broken to cause extreme pain, anguish and death to having their fingernails ripped off to get information. How about Germany? All the doctors in those death camps were not there expressly for treating the Jews housed there. They did not give a rip for their well being. These doctors were experimenting to find better methods of torture and killing.

Talk torture to the Jews, American prisoners of war in WWII or Vietnam, Korea or lately the Middle East. In Iraq, the enemies captured are dragged behind vehicles through the village, being stoned, beaten, kicked and humiliated before being be-headed and their bodies hung up for display to demoralize our troops and to boost the egos of their own people. Women fare not a lot better as babies are cut from the womb with machettes and thrown into fires and the women themselves then killed all while the husbands are held and forced to watch. Do not talk to me of the ungodly, wretched way we treat our prisoners when in actuality we have done no torture.

Nothing we have done to the enemy combatants we are holding as prisoners in Guantanamo Bay can be considered real torture. These people get fed regularly, have clean clothing, their own copy of their holy book, the Koran and are treated humanely. Even the so called torture is humane when compared to actual torture used be their people on our soldiers or used by others in the world.

If information is obtained through these methods of water-boarding, slapping or forcing them to stay awake or eat caterpillars. Excuse me, be WITH caterpillars; although in some cultures caterpillars are considered a delicacy, if one attack is stopped and even one American life is spared the horror of another 9/11 disaster then anything done at Gitmo is totally justified.

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