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Did Jesus mention homosexuality?

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Yes

by Diana Howard

Created on: September 09, 2008   Last Updated: October 26, 2008

The book of John verse one states that "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The word "Word" in the Greek is Logos. It means that the invisible is being made visible. Since Jesus was God as well as man, he did not have to mention homosexuality specifically for us to understand how he felt about it.

God's word is filled with examples with the most overreaching statement being made in Romans 1:25-27;

25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Long ago, during the time before the flood and Sodom and Gomorrah, men began making idols for themselves. It was this first corruption that caused man to slide further away from truth. In the twenty and twenty-first centuries there are few golden calves, for we have found the perfect objects to worship...ourselves and our pleasure. Men and woman today have exchanged natural sex with one another, not because they were born that way, victims of nature, but mainly because they were bored, satiated with pornography and easy illicit sex. They may have been sexually abused by people who didn't realize that God's laws are not suggestions...they are protections. Who would know better than the Creator, as to how the creation functions best.

Men and women today have exchanged roles; women have become more dominant causing males to respond with performance anxiety. Women, whose men do not respect them as equals, and those who have been hurt because of heterosexual relationships, mistrust most men. Sexual Freedom has perverted rather than helped our relationships and still we lie to our children about it. After all, if we told them that sex in a temporary relationship can rob you of gratifying sex as time passes and cause relationships to fail, we might have to give up our own selfish pleasures.

Eros, where we get the term erotic, is one of the Greek words for love and so is Philemon. Both sexual love (Eros) and Philemon (friendship) are self-centered forms of love. No relationship can last without the third kind of love which is Agape. Agape is a self-sacrificing form of unconditional love, that loves despite faults and holds the "other's" interest before their own. If each partner in a relationship lives this way, no one will be taken advantage of. Two people who engage in sexual intercourse will always suffer when Agape is missing. Agape is the kind of love that wouldn't think of asking the object of its love to debase themselves as a pleasure tool, and then throw them away. Agape is the love that lasts and it is the love that God gave us when He sent us Christ. Since Christ told us that he had not come to abolish the Law and the Prophets but to fulfill them, (Matt 5:17-19), we have to trust that homosexuality was not in His plan, but a consequence of self-centerdness and self-worship.

God requires those who follow Him to follow His commandments. All people are prone to sin. Some lie, take drugs, have illicit sex, or drink alcohol, gossip and complain. Being human gives us a propensity to sin. The Bible says in Romans 3:23 that "All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God." All sin is wrong, because it misses the mark of God's Goodness. It does not say "except homosexuality. God's Word is clear on the subject, but God in his mercy left His throne and became human to reconcile men to God at a terrible cost. Would such a thing have been done by a cosmic killjoy or instead by one who loves and cares for your life? Yes, Jesus addressed the issue of homosexuality in His Word the same as any other sin. He died for it.

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No

by Velma aka Shammah

Created on: June 21, 2008

The Bible/Torah is replete with reference to homosexuality, although that word is not used, simply the descriptive act which we have now called homosexuality. But as for Yahshua (Jesus) speaking specifically of the act of homosexuality, the answer is no, he did not explicitly speak of the it. But, he did cover it for we are told, and I believe, that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of YHWH," and according to Scriptural references, homosexuality is a 'sin'.

In the Beginning (as it is Today....)!

Well, according to the Biblical time lines, it didn't take us long to give into the lusts of the flesh and fall short of the glory of God, now did it? Right there in the first book, Genesis, we come upon the metropolis of Sodom, a somewhat mega city of the times, filled with all kinds of goings on, including, the sins of the city that rose up to the throne of heaven, and really, really angered YHWH! Gen 13:13 tells us that, "Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD." This verse alone doesn't suggest at all that the men were sinning (fornicating/committ ing acts of homosexuality) with one another. It simply says they were wicked and were sinning. Like all scripture, you must read it in context; you can't take a sentence or a word and correctly interpret what is being said. Heck, if you really want to get to the meat and potatoes of any of scripture, you need to find something as close to the original language of the Bible - the Old Testament being Hebrew - and find out the meanings and intent from the original writings. In the English language alone, today, a word or phrase can mean one thing in Canada and something completely different in England. We have to be very, very careful.

Reading through previous verses of Genesis and then beyond 13:13, I have concluded that it was indeed the sin of homosexuality. In Genesis 19 we read,

"The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. 2 "My lords," he said, "please turn aside to your servant's house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning." "No," they answered, "we will spend the night in the square." 3 But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodomboth young and oldsurrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

Whether you are a believer or not, I don't think there is an adult on the face of the earth who does not know the story of the total destruction; how the city was completely wiped out by the Lord because of their gross sin, as it continues in Genesis 19:

24 Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrahfrom the LORD out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the citiesand also the vegetation in the land. 26 But Lot's wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.

Did Yahshua speak against the 'sin of homosexuality'? I say NO, not directly and specifically, but YES definitely when he spoke against the sins of man. He confirmed, contrary to the popular feedings of mainstream Christianity that he didn't come to abolish the law (of the Torah, the Old Testament), but he was confirming it. He explicitly spoke of doing the Father's Will at all times and speaking the words that he received from the Father.

The New Testament (although there is nothing new at all, but simply a confirmation of the Old) does speak specifically against the sin of homosexuality, but it is not out of Yahshua's mouth but the purported authors of the various books of the New Testament; Luke, Paul, John etc. I don't feel the need to quote verse and chapter, for if you are really interested in knowing Truth, there is no better way to learn it than to look it up for yourself.

Do I judge? Heck no! Did Yahshua judge? Heck no! It scares me to death when I catch myself making a statement that could be construed as a judgmental comment, because we are so absolutely warned, "Judge not that ye be not judged! For in the same measure that you judge another, so shall ye be judged!" There is but one Judge, and we will ALL BE JUDGED by Him; we are all accountable for every act, error and even omission! Yes, there are 'sins of omission' and we shall be accountable.

Yahshua was so awesome; the ability to love as he loved - WOW! He knew who would betray him; knew who would deny him; knew who would mock and scorn him; and yet, he loved and he sought the lost. He was on a mission, the Father's mission. He sought to fulfill the Father's heart's desire that, "None be lost!" He came to be a visible presence of the Father's unbelievable love, the Father's hands, heart, feet, tears, joy, sadness, sorrow, laughter and celebration.

Recall the criticism of Yahshua for dining with sinners, fornicators and the like. Undoubtedly there were amongst them homosexuals, pimps, prostitutes, thieves (white collar criminals, corrupt judges and lawyers even....); his heart was bigger than the universe and he didn't judge.

Yahshua LOVED and God help me, and forgive me should I dare point an accusatory finger at another, for you see (try the experiment) when I point that solitary finger of accusation at you about your sin (homosexuality, murder, theft, lying), there are three pointing right back and me and the thumb points toward the heavens, as if to say, "God, you really blew it when you created him/her. Guess you didn't know what you were doing!'

Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone!

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