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Should the education system allow teachers and principals to "hit" students if they are misbehaving in class?

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Yes
20% 146 votes Total: 736 votes
No
80% 590 votes
Yes

Anyone who thinks teachers are just waiting in line to "hit" children is ludicrous. Teachers would like nothing better than to get nice well behaved group of children to teach. Unfortunately poor parenting has led to a generation of spoiled whiners who do nothing but disrupt class.

Many states have abolished the right of a teacher to spank a student, but some have possibly seen the error of their ways and reverted back to corporal punishment. They have realized that if punishment is not punishment, children are going to misbehave on a daily basis.

Today the majority of students are rude, disrespectful, bullies, disruptive and defiant. Teachers deal with these spoiled irreverent children every day. They are expected to teach them while trying to have some manner of control in the classroom. Children that come to school with this defiant attitude wreak havoc and keep other children from learning.

Parents that don't discipline at home usually are the ones who don't want their child disciplined at school. The parents that do sign corporal punishment papers are the ones whose children never get in trouble. It does not take a mental heavyweight to see the connection.

While the docile parents have coddled their children and refused to be the parent, other parents have taken their roles seriously and disciplined their children. Could there be a correlation between the lack of true punishment for inappropriate behavior and the rise in violence among our youth? Where there is no true direction and consequences for actions there is chaos.

Many school systems want to buy good behavior. Schools will have rewards for a child exhibiting good behavior, when in all actuality it should have been expected to begin with. The days of letting these disruptive students remain in school is quickly coming to a screeching halt. When the parents of well behaved children get fed up with those disrupting their child's educational process, then we will see lawsuits against the parents of the defiant children.

Teachers in many schools are harassed and tormented by these undisciplined children and their parents. Teachers have had things thrown at them, are hit, and threatened because they may have actually expected the child to do their work or pay attention in class. Where does it stop?

When a child knows that he or she will be disciplined, behavior changes. They realize very quickly how to adapt the bad behavior into good behavior. It is all a matter of legal rights to an education without disruptive interferences from unruly students. The law will prevail for the children who follow the codes of acceptable conduct.

Many educators fear that all too soon many excellent teachers will leave the profession due to the lack of discipline in schools. The average new teacher quits their third year of teaching and fifty percent quit by year five. Who will teach the children when they all leave? Parents will then be able to teach their own children. It would be very interesting to see how they handle them.


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No

I attended a private school (Baptist) from fourth grade until graduation. When I first began attendance, parents were informed that the faculty reserved the right to discipline the children "any way that they saw fit". (This was the actual wording on the waiver) There were spankings, detentions, and kids slapped across the mouth for cursing or back-talking the teachers.

Our school actually had a faculty position called "Disciplinarian". This gentleman simply waited around for one of the teachers who was a bit squeamish about discipline, or who was a bit smaller than the intended disciplinee, to call, at which point he would arrive, and lay down the law ala Charles Bronson.

Looking back, I see now that this was as excessive as it sounds. All of us students survived it; but that doesn't mean that there isn't a better way.

Now, however, I look at the goings-on in the schools, and I fully understand why my school felt that swift and terrible punishment was the best way to maintain control. Things are way out of hand. If a student is spoken harshly to by a faculty member, or another student engages them in a pushing match in the hallway, suburban soccer moms are dialing the attorney's office on the way to pick them up from the office.

This is no joke. Lawsuits are filed by the parents of children who are bullied, and then, when the school is forced to act, a lawsuit is filed on behalf of the bully. And if the teacher scowls, or speaks crossly during any of this, the 'mental cruelty' and 'emotional suffering' tab expands dramatically. And the money sucked out of the school system by over-reacting parents and the avarice of personal damage attorneys detracts from the school's ability to educate.

The parents (actually the lawyers, by proxy) have effectively rendered the teachers impotent, since they have to fear the most outlandish consequences of their every action.

Now to the crux of the discussion. Do I think teachers should be able to hit students? No, I don't, and I'll explain why.

First of all, I believe that that particular level of discipline, where hands a laid on a child in any way, is the sovereign territory of the parent, or adults whom the parent has specifically entrusted to do this (i.e., family who watch the child, grandparents, etc.). This type of discipline requires the most intimate knowledge of the child, and their personality; some children need frequent correction in this way, and others should never be touched due to their overly-sensitive nature; most kids fall somewhere in between. A teacher just doesn't know a child well enough, even by year's end, to administer this type of punishment.

Secondly, for education to take place, a child has to open up to it. If the teacher has spanked, embarrassed, or caused the child any discomfort at all, this becomes much harder for the child to do. This is especially true for middle school students, suffering puberty, feeling awkward, and trying hard to establish their individuality.

So, how do I expect schools to keep control? I'm so glad you asked. I have a few suggestions.

In these litigious times parents freely file, and even more freely threaten lawsuits. In this environment, it is easy to see why corporal punishment must not be performed by the school, lest they spend education dollars on legal settlements. So I suggest that any time a child needs, in the opinion of the faculty, more discipline than they should be free to administer, the parent should be called, and required to pick up the child immediately to administer it. The child should be brought to the office, the parent called, and a time limit established (at the beginning of the year) for a parent to respond under these circumstances. When that time has elapsed, and the parent has failed to respond, the child should be reported as truant, and the parent can pick them up at their leisure from the police station. (Having to babysit, or detain a student is not what a school is for; they are for education).

If Mom and Dad demand that no one gets physical in disciplining their child (and they should demand that), then they must take that duty on themselves. Schools are not babysitters. They are charged with a specific task, and having to perform the parents' duties robs them of the time allotted to educate. If the parent wants to perform the discipline, then the school should be able to expect them to do it.

And little Jimmy would get his act together quickly if Dad or Mom had to leave work and lose wages because of his misbehavior. Parents who don't take any interest in their child's education, or behavior at school, suddenly would.

Basically, the school would be saying, "teaching him is our job, but making him behave is yours".

And I believe that if this situation arises a certain, preset number of times, suspensions should automatically be attached. Say, one day on the first occasion, three days for the second, and a week for the third. This would inconvenience Mom and Dad, causing them to either find child care (which costs money), or to stay home and watch little Jimmy themselves, and greatly improve their willingness to address their child's misbehavior.

Connecting your problems to the concerns of those who can correct your problems is the only effective way to get them corrected. This system would do that.

Of course, on the fourth time, the child would be expelled. But I think that once the parents are pressed into action, fourth infractions would become rare. In general, parents, once there interest is aroused, are very effective at behavioral instruction, if you know what I mean.

Parents should be the ones to administer any harsher discipline than a scolding; but this means that parents must make themselves available to do it, and be willing to do it. Many parents are not involved in their child's education, and this is one way to connect them to it by some of their most valued possessions; their time and their money. If they don't value teaching their child proper behavior, or how to conduct themselves in class, then they certainly value their income, and their convenience, both of which would be negatively impacted.

I don't think teachers should ever lay a hand on a child for disciplinary reasons, but I don't think that they should ever have to, either. Mom and Dad should be right there at a moment's notice, since they insist that this is their domain. That's fair.

So, by extension, it's fair for the school to require that parent to take care of issues arising in their domain; or to remove those non-education-relate d issues from the school.

Learn more about this author, Mick Marten.
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