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| Yes | 57% | 235 votes | Total: 412 votes | |
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We lost this war by the third day of the invasion, so yes I would say four years on is a bit on the late side.
That we could achieve our goals with the numbers of soldiers we had was predicated on the absurd idea that we would be welcomed by cheering crowds and flower petals. This idea was absurd because there had never been such a welcome of a foreign invading army from a culture with a long history of animosity with the invaded country. Never once. And we had been bombing Iraq on average every three days for the five years leading up to the invasion, which can tend to make you less popular. We had also been keeping them from getting the medicines they needed to cure diarrhea and the equipment they needed to repair their water system so the water would be clean again. Both of which lead to hundreds of thousands of children dying, which again tends to make a country less popular.
No expert anywhere would have claimed that we could occupy Iraq and not be welcomed and face an insurgency and win with as many soldiers as we had to go in with. We did not have more soldiers, as it is our military has been described as "broken" because of the strain of maintaining the force level we have.
What was supposed to happen in the Bush fantasy was the magical welcoming and the rapid conversion of the Iraqi military into our willing allies who would put some nice fellow in power and wave merrily goodbye to us a few months later. That such a thing had never come close to happening before in all of world history did not trouble them enough to make plans for what to do if it did not happen this time either.
Three days in it was clear that the Iraqi military was not coming over to us and that the only people cheering in the streets were members of the previously brutally persecuted Iraqi Communist Party. Three days in it was clear what was going to happen, an ever growing insurgency, and that we did not have enough soldiers to win against the foes we would face. Three days in it was clear that we had no plans for what to do now, no course was set and yet we spent the next three years being asked to "stay the course" in Iraq. Three days in it was clear that the only question was what cost in lives and treasure would be paid before we left Iraq in a shambles.
Sure, Bush and his administration did lots of things to make things worse for us in Iraq over the next four years but the basic math is simple. We need 650,000 soldiers for this fight, according to the book our current top general in Iraq wrote. We have less than 25% of that available.
Here is what makes it even worse; no matter what happens in the war we would still lose when we left. Any regime that was friends with us would be ousted in a few years time at most and the insurgents we had subdued would just come back again. No government that likes the US can hold power long in a country where the vast majority of the populace hates our guts. We cannot stay forever, and once we leave we lose no matter what happened before that. We lack the troops for a temporary win, and a long term win is simply impossible.
Every life and every dollar that this war has wasted since the fourth day on has been spent to keep Bush from having to admit that we lost his stupid war that he lied like hell to get us into. For no other purpose. Just so Bush can avoid saying he lost. Brave men and women die so Bush can be a coward.
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When has it ever been too late to restore people to their families, without interference from foreign governments and foreign peoples? Both Iraqis and Americans want to go home and be at peace, and we've little right to deny them that. But at the same time, how will the region stabilize if we don't stay? Shouldn't we have pulled out a long time ago if we were going to salvage any type of victory, Pyrrhic or otherwise?
Even hindsight is not 20/20 in this case. We still don't know if doing things right could have totally changed the situation in the least. The people in the Middle East are angry, and I'm not talking about any pseudo-prophetical Revelations dispositions here. Those people have an absolute right to be angry. The West went in and carved up the regions arbitrarily, causing regions that were uneasy bedfellows the begin with to implode with rage and violence. A few years in such an unstable region, where fingers are pointed everywhere and no one takes the blame, would do little to smooth over the jagged edges. In the "it gets worse before it gets better" frame of mind, the years that we've spent there only serve to shove broken glass into the wounds.
So is it really time to bring them home? Now is as good as any other time in the future. The American generals in Iraq have admitted that we are in a multi-decade long fight over there, and that it's not going to stabilize any time soon. Unless Americans wave their flags and gather enough gusto to sing "Battle Hymn of the Republic," there's not going to be enough enthusiasm, thus support, to continue a war for another twenty, thirty, forty years.
The bottom line: Any time we choose to withdraw from the Middle East will be too little, too *soon.* No one is willing to commit to the sheer amount of money, time, and manpower (read: lives) that it would take to finally have any sort of peace. Our only hope is that the Iraqis will be able to see their own imminent destruction through continued violence and finally find a way to cease hostilities.
On the bright side of things, the Arab League (which includes 22 Arab states and is headquartered in Cairo, Egypt) has sent a peace envoy to Israel to try and stop the violence between it and Palestine. Maybe with pressure from ethnically and culturally similar states, the Iraqis will be able to see that the ideal for peace is not just a goal for the United States or the EU, but a global one as well.
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