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Do victims of racism or sexism suffer more?

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Racism

by Dee Holder

Created on: March 02, 2010

This question is not as simple as it seems.  One can look at it from a historical, global, cultural, societal and individual perspective.  The answer to the question can change depending on which perspective one uses to evaluate the question.   On a historical and global perspective I think the answer would have to be sexism.  Women as a group, regardless of culture or civilization have suffered horrific crimes and have essentially been treated as second class citizens in most countries throughout history and even in present times in some countries.  Even many western countries still have evidence of discrimination against women, even as women have increased their economic and cultural power over the years.

It would be interesting to note that in the US, black men were able to vote before white women and that we have elected a black male president before we allowed a woman to run the white house and not just live there.  As a black woman I had to think for a while before I decided which side to write to.  I thought back on my life and tried to determine which of the two forms of discrimination have caused me the most stress and have had the most impact on my life, career and relationships.

When I thought about it, I had to admit that being black has a greater effect in my day to day interactions than does being female. As a woman, I see myself represented in the media, the arts and in the workplace.   Not only am I represented in the media as a woman, but there are many different images, personalities and versions of women that I can identify with.  Female characters in movies, books and TV series are well fleshed out, interesting and varied.  You find women (of course) well represented as partners for male leading men (why this is relevant will be explained later).

In essence, while I have experienced discrimination and frustrations because I am a woman in a mostly male workplace it is not constant and there are times when being female has actually been an advantage in my social interactions.   This is a very different situation to being black in American society.  As a black person I find it much harder to see myself represented in the media, arts and in the workplace.  In my current job you can count the number of blacks working there on one hand.  Where I live there are no other black tenants, I went to predominantly white universities for all three of my degrees.

When I do see blacks on TV or in the movies the characters are often not well developed and are very rarely well thought out and interesting, unless they were developed by or for black audiences.  It is rare that I see a black woman as a love interest for the white leading men and if they are they tend to die, or are replaced by white love interests as soon as possible.  Most of the images of blacks, especially of black women are very stereotypical and I often find them very difficult to relate to as I don't fit the current stereotypes for black women.

I have never felt that I have been denied service, ill treated, profiled or separated for increased surveillance because I am a woman but I have on numerous occasion felt that I have experienced this due to the color of my skin.  The truth is that neither is acceptable.  I should not be treated as an inferior regardless of if I am black or I am female.  Neither of those two factors has much to do with my scientific ability (I am a scientist), my moral bearings, my spiritual beliefs, my academic ability or my honesty.   Where I have lived, how my parents raised me, what schools I went to and how much money my parents had were much more important in determining who I am as a person, than either my race or my sex.

The way I am treated due to my sex, or race had more to do with how I see the world as a black woman, than the simple fact that I am a black woman.  Had I never experienced racism (and in my childhood growing up in a country with much less racism at the time) I would not consider my identity as a black person important.  Before I moved to the states I saw myself simply as a person, not as a black person.  Had I never experienced sexism (which I had experienced before I came here), I would not see my identity as a woman as that relevant to my career persona (it would still be important in the social interactions).

This is probably the answer to the question I often hear asked "When will "insert race or gender here" stop talking about "insert 'ism here"?  When all the 'isms are gone, people will stop talking about race and gender all the time, yes it really is that simple, but I am going off topic.

Both sexism and racism are corrosive to the soul, mind and body.  Many white males will note that they feel that they have also been victims of racial or sexual discrimination.  To them I would ask them to hold on to that feeling of anger and sense of unfairness and then extend that same feeling of basic unfairness to every aspect of their lives. Imagine that when they go to the restaurant, try to get a cab, try to get a job, a mate or a treatment in a hospital they know that the only reason that you are not getting that table, that cab, that job, man or that medication is because of the color of their skin, their sexual orientation or their religion.  That this happens to them on a daily basis, every year of their lives and has been happening, for decades, centuries, in the case of women from the time men started writing about history.

We should not be trying to figure out which is worse, both should not be experienced, we should be trying to find ways to rid our society of the last vestiges of both ills.  

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Sexism

by Sandra Hambleton

Created on: July 28, 2007   Last Updated: September 04, 2009

Who suffers more? Sexism is almost another form of racism. It happens to both women and men. Suffering isn't a contest,and having suffered does not automatically imbue one with moral superiority. We are all capable of causing suffering. White guys seem to get blamed for all discrimination. That in itself is discrimination. When we oppose racism or sexism, we are asking others to look beyond stereotypes. Yet some of us will gladly stereotype white men. We do this precisely because they are white and they are men.

Still, this question is intriguing enough that I feel compelled to give an opinion.
John Lennon and Yoko Ono's song, "Woman is the N-, of the world" comes to mind. I can't even bring my self to spell out the "N" word in the song title, because I know the true ugliness of that word. I have heard it spoken with real hatred. Racism is the lowest form of ignorance, fear and intolerance there is. It is hard to separate from sexism. You're born black, white, brown, and male or female. Isn't that pretty much the same- being discriminated against for an inherent characteristic that does not in truth indicate our value as a member of society?

The reason I feel that sexism against women is currently causing more suffering in this world is because of its social acceptance. At least the majority of us will accept the fact that the amount of pigment in your skin has no bearing on the amount of merit in your character.

The media portrayal of females in almost any role is largely based on appearance alone. Media seems to convey a message that a woman's value is limited to or dependent upon her looks. A woman's body is used to sell any number of products not designed specifically to enhance a woman's quality of life. Too many people still deny the existence of, or minimize the harmful effects of sexism. I notice women do this as often as men.

Those that deny the impact of gender discrimination must not pay close attention to the real news stories that occasionally show up in between celebrity studded sound-bites and, infotainment peddled ad naseum on mainstream airwaves.

People who think sexism is not a big deal must be distracted when yet another report of a child gone missing, raped, or dead appears. Not always, but more often than not, that child is female. Many people must not be aware that rape as an act of war is a hideously common occurrence in every country that experiences war. They must be oblivious to what happens to baby girls in countries where baby boys are preferred. Female circumcision, honor killings, and horrors of this nature may seem like they only happen in far away places.

I think that it is a mistake to consider them someone else's problem. We think of these events as rare and tragic. Many of us will watch films and television that glorify violence against women and seemingly not be offended or affected. We also watch programming that reduces females to vacuous sex kitten stereotypes. "Reality" shows are an extraordinary example of this specific stereotype. There was an alarming fashion trend perhaps two years ago, where women's magazines showed numerous images of adult women dressed in baby doll dresses, pigtails,knee socks and school girl uniforms. Sexualizing young girls and placing them in pageants is equally reprehensible.

Despite the overwhelming prevalence of violence that is directed towards women in such ghastly and overt ways, the more subtle institutionalized forms of sexism are allowed to languish within our societal structures. Women are as responsible for this as men are; women who simply take what's cast before them; women who view other women as a threat; women who value male attention above meaningful discourse with anyone male or female.

It is never acceptable to judge a person's worth by their outward appearance. To do so is choosing to be ignorant, which is my definition of stupidity. Even if we won't admit it, we all feel enormous pressure to look good. It is unfortunate that looking "good" is so narrowly defined by our American culture.

Sexism against men happens every day too. The best example of sexism directed at men I know is the morbid media sensation that seemed to capture the attention of the entire USA when Lorena Bobbit severed her husband's penis. Would there have been any jokes about this case if the situation had been reversed and he had mutilated her genitals? No.

To conclude, sexism is but another form of division and discrimination, equally as heinous as racism. Sexism against women is all too common. Sexism against men is just as awful. This country still has a horrible problem with both racism and sexism.

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