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Rejection of extremists by ordinary Muslims can only help lessen terrorism, but the real question is how to build their resolve to do so. It is understood that the great majority of Muslims are moderate and do not support terrorism, yet the extremists continue to grow their support. To understand this paradox, requires an understanding of the background of the extremist views and how to turn them on their head.
Unfortunately, many Muslims and non-Muslims alike misunderstand the meaning and true intent of the Qu'ran. In itself, Islam is a profoundly peaceful religion, based on Judeo-Christian roots and its true intent is fairness and justice. It provides for tolerance of other religions and promotes the rights of women and the weak or disadvantaged. There are misguided zealots in every religious tradition and their strength ebbs or grows, depending on the course of events. That is true in Islam too.
Acceptance of terrorists and intolerance increases when living conditions are miserable. When there seems to be no other way out, is when ordinary Muslims are at the highest risk for accepting extremists and terrorists in their midst. The lives of too many Muslims are full of hardship and despair. American-style occupations with military oppression tends to promote extremism. There is nothing inspiring to common Muslims in being subjugated by a stronger foreign power, especially one with strong ties to Israel and that is not Muslim.
Effective economic development and reconstruction is the only way to hasten the growth in strength of the views of moderate Muslims. They must see benefits that are real to them before they can be expected to reject extremists from their communities.
Ordinary Muslims must see their families' welfare to be improving, their town's security improving (since Saddam), their personal freedoms increasing before they can
be expected to support America by rejecting extremists. Otherwise, it is wishful thinking, without basis. Put yourself in their shoes.
Why would you confront anyone who might be dangerous or hold a grudge, unless you were confident in your future without the extremists? Bush and the neo-cons just don't get it. Instead of taking care to be sure that the professionals, middle and working classes see their lives improving, they are too busy just trying to stay alive to take principled stands against extremists. If you felt safer by helping the extremists, because there are too few Americans and you don't speak their language, what would you do?
The War on Terrorism requires serious review and reform, because it is not helping the Muslims in most cases. "Bait and switch" tactics will not work in the Middle East. Platitudes like democracy and freedom meaning nothing unless they are translated immediately into improved standards of living. Hezbollah and Hamas have grown in support in the Gaza and Lebanon due to taking care of the needs of the people. There is no substitute for that. Until America internalizes that truism, there is no hope for the War on Terror making headway in Muslim countries. The moderate Muslims must be see their interests are being pursued. It hasn't happened yet. The War on Terror is effectively a war against all Muslims. It must be changed or it only leads to more suffering for us all.
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Apparently there are two major sects to Islam. The Sunni and the Shia. At the present time they are battling one another and not only their vilified enemies, the "Evil West." Just as political arguments are bantered back and forth in democracies, i.e. the Senate and the House of the United States, or the House of Commons and the House of Lords in parliamentary politics. Just as both sides sling words and side up to toe the line of their sole party, yet, sometimes they put away their bias and rhetoric and they collaborate with each other in a bipartisan way. One could only hope that more splinter groups of salomi salome baloney grow, that way they are busy slaughtering themselves in the name of Ollie and his puppet. But when all is said and done, they still stand by their core philosophies and satanic 6th century ideology. Akbar Ollie...
I take the stand that not enough of the run of the mill Muslims have taken offense, or not enough have vocally opposed the terroristic practices of their ultra winged compatriots. I am persuaded that Islam is a religion of the sword. History proves this. We in the present stages of modern history can attest to it. The only thing Islam has in common with Judaism and Christianity is the theme of one Supreme Being. And it stops there. Yet, although M'madeans tout that this god of theirs is a continuance of the earlier revelations God the one established and practiced by Judaism, is not it strange then? If their god is the God of Israel, then why hate Israel, Judaism and Judaisms Daughter Christianity?
It is clear that the Jews proclaimed first such a concept of monotheism, under close study the god of the M'madeans and the God of Judah, and Christian God have not much in common. So, the religions are different and there is only, or there can arguably be seen this fundamental schism and ism that will not ever be reconciled. Nor can we expect public opinion, that apparently doesn't exist, in the m'madean world to be uprooted or influential to change dogma and hate spewing doctrine of the Ollie's misguided, spawn. Simply put, the M'madeans, can not be swayed by the less radical arms of terroristic Islam. If the casual ones speak up, then they themselves are handed out death warrants and blood demanding cries as "Death to heretics."
In a perfect world, that values and uses resolution by arbitration, tempered with compromise and compassion, we can see that the debate we are considering now, how it might be valid to say that there is a chance of influence and subtle changes for the mellowing and temperance of the M'madean intolerance and pure satanic hatred being witnessed...?
But how can one interact with demon possessed destructive mindsets, that argue the point of their god gives them the decree to murder, in order to convert all to declare Ollie is god and M'med is a name of the sole prophet? I declare him a self-proclaimed prophet. No miracles, but plenty of blood and mayhem. I have decree that we should hold a contest for the Sudanese teddy bear. I suggest it as these; ibn akbar lop off the infidel's head Ralphie, immam haaahka-wadd ibn Fuzzywuzzie-no shalom, I declare to name all pigs all over the world hereby be named ibn m'med.
There is no common ground for the West to dialog with these peoples. They only know the sword, so my argument is one with a sword. Just as there are different camps in Judaism, and the 20,000,or so, in Christianity, even if there are the darkened Lightless Sunnis, and the piles of Shi'ites in the lunar based worship of the moon god Ollie, and his illiterate self-proclaimed prophet, they indeed are still two opposing camps and the more they fight within themselves the better. But one thing for certain, we had best not turn our backs on Israel. We should not force her hand to give up land for peace. These plague carrying sand bitten fleas of hatred have already declared their ultimate goal. Israel destoyed and the West Destroyed. We must once again ask why?
That area of real estate was carved up by the Brits years ago in the Balfour arrangement. There was never a Palestine outside of the renaming of Israel as such back in 70 Anno Dommini by Hadrean, after laying waste to Jerusalem for insurrection against Roman enslavement. All of Jerusalem and Samaria and Judah belongs to the Jews and they belong in Israel. The descendants of Ishmael ibn Hagar has not claim physically nor spiritually to Judah. None at all. And the case is more likely than not, that the 6th century self-proclaimed leader of slami was backward enough and hate filled enough to not wish to bow down to the God of Israel, so he establishes his own concepts. Then spreads his message of peace with mayhem, death, and destruction by the sword. Wasnot the battle of the Trench in retaliation by the Meccans wanting revenge for the pillage and attack of some of their carravans by Mu'meds followers? And when the Jews did not support him in this he had the men slaughtered and the women and children sold into slavery? Peaceful indeed.
Let's look at the example in the PLO organization. We find H'mas and H'zbuls shooting and blowing each other up. Over what one might inquire? Over power, it is all about who is the big dog. There I have recently read a statistic of over 20,000 terrorist attacks against the Jews in Israel by these sand fleas and camel bugs. Wow, was any of this declared on CBS,NBC, ABC or FOX?
Hey, if The United States of America is sovereign, and has the right to retaliate or defend Herself, then what LESS RIGHT HAS ISRAEL? Back in the early 80's when Israeli IDF destroyed a nuclear reactor in Iraq, the world blackballed Her. But, we ought to be thankful for such moxie and guts. And if Iran gets too close to developing the Modern Day Cyanide or nuclear bombs....She will do the same against Haman's Persia. As Judeo-Christo Americans we ought to be up in arms in Israel's defense.
Instead America and Her self deluded hedonistic wings of mental and amoral decadence is more awaiting the next video of Brittainy Spears, and who is doing who in Hollywood. Wake up! For we will either be awakened by our internal moral alarm clocks or the sounds of more explosions carried out by the 9 year old virgin seekers pro Ollie's types.
Hey, listen here for a second to me, if M'med said that the Savior of the World did not do what history proves he did, die on a cross. So, if He denies the Jeshua Ameshia gave His life for atonement, by the decree of the God of Mercy, the God of Israel, in order to redeem, and bring mankind back into a fellowship with Him, and if M'med said Jesus was only a prophet, but not a Savior, or the Lamb of God, and that mankind can have communion and know God, and that Jesus was the Son of Israel's God coming to take away the sins of mankind...then someone is lying. Someone is an anti-Christ. And actions are rather louder than words.
Mu'madeans hate Israel, and the West. I can honestly see why they call America the Great Satan. Because She has fallen into hedonistic decadence. But all civilizations before us can attest, that wealth breeds godless hedonism. Secular Humanism becomes the religion of the time. But irregardless, there is still enough of God fearing men, women and children in America to make a difference. And we can and will make a difference, or we ourselves die trying, either by honor and choice and battle against True Evil, or by them destroying our lives and livelihood. I would rather take the battle to Mecca, Medina, and Baghdad or Islam-is-bad. (How appropriately named).
I wonder why Islam truly hates Judaism, why their ulterior motive is total destruction and total annihilation of Israel? And the Daughter of Judaism, Christianity? Well, She is held in as much hatred and disdain. Why? Unless the spirit of Satan is in Islam. For Satan hates all that is of the One True and Living God, who proclaimed Himself the God of Israel...and of the Children of Promise. If not for the blindness of certain Jews, then we Christians would not even have a clue as to what salvation is. And beings that our God and Saviour is Jesus the Christ, the King of the Jews, and as the Image of this God, if not for our grafting into the Root of Israel by adoption then we would be just as hopeless as these murdering madmen of Islam.
The Hebrew Bible says that Isaac was the seed of promise, M'med declares another one is.
The Hebrew Bible declares the promise of a Savior throughout the Old Testament, and when He came He was rejected by most of the Jews then, which then God of Israel turned to the nation that wasn't a nation we Gentiles, offering us a dispositional period of time to find the salvation that is of the Jews first. M'med declares a different way, he declares ancient archaic laws of the Sharia, lopping off hands and feet, and conversion of the infidels by the sword, and it defends the taking and the consuming of marriage to little girls. (Consuming a marriage is sexual contacts, even the sick b'stards describe the "rubbing of the thigh" indicating the man gratifying himself by greasing up the little one's thighs as to get himself off! Sick bastard, the lot of them!) M'med declares the Gospel of Yeshua Ameshia of no affect, or no effect...someone is lying. And there is no doubt that some are following the doctrine of lies and a liar. Only time will tell. But until then, let's not get to disillusioned that an outcry of Muslims of a more descent and tolerant mentality will have any chance in a devil's hell to change Jihad. Did you see the machete's in the hands of the backward Sudanese, why they have been massacring men, women and children, in Darfor for years now. What do the mellow Muslims say about that?
Nothing! Yeah, I know!
But until then...we must fight fire with fire....Superior firepower. May the God of Israel, bless the United States Marines, and Her fighting force, and make them victorious in their battle against Satan's minions, may He redeem America, and Your beloved Israel. In the name of Jesus the Christ.
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