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350 Wins
Created on: April 11, 2008 Last Updated: October 31, 2008
Let me start by saying I have always been a big Barry Bonds fan and I have not always been a huge fan of Roger Clemens. Both of them represent what is so wrong with the American sports world today although they both also represent amazing skills in the areas so coveted by the sport they play. As for the individual achievements they have reached, Bonds has come through in an era where the home run has become so common it is almost expected that someone will break a new home run record in just a few years time. There were so many years between George Foster hitting 50 home runs and Cecil Fielder hitting 50 that home runs were at a premium. Then the ball started jumping out of the park with such ferocity that such feared power hitters as Luis Gonzales found a 50 home run season. Clemens has won a ton of games in his career. He has done so in an era that does not cater to pitchers. If you throw inside you are ejected. Managers go to the pen at the first sign of fatigue or just to get a lefty-lefty match-up. That does not even address the fact that Clemens has accomplished this while living the fairy tale life of reporting to a team whenever he feels like it. Both players are amazing, both in talent and accomplishments, but, there is no comparison between pitching numbers and hitting numbers now in baseball. The success of a pitcher is much more impressive than any hitter in baseball today. Many of the numbers that Bonds has reached will be eclipsed in my lifetime. I was four years old when Henry Aaron broke Babe Ruth's home run record. I do not think another 30 years will pass before the likes of A-Rod or Albert Pujols pass Bonds. The numbers that Clemens has reached, however, will stand for a long, long time. With the careers of pitchers today how long do you think it will take for the next pitcher to hit 350 wins? I am not even sure that I will see it in my lifetime. Clemens wins this argument hands down. He will stand for years and years as head and shoulders above the crowd. I am not saying Bonds will be forgotten, but, he will not be held as the greatest to play. Both have been tainted by a certain extent by the steroids scandals, but, both deserve to be in Cooperstown and both came into the league great and maintained it, steroids or not. But, Clemens is a pitcher of mythical proportion and Bonds will be surpassed as the next Goliath swats home runs into the stratosphere.
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755 Homers
Created on: May 03, 2008 Last Updated: October 31, 2008
When answering this question, it is important to think about how you want to approach the question. What should it be based on. I believe that you need to compare the feat to what others have done in the category as well as thinking about the different eras of baseball. When it comes to the home run category, it is difficult to compare the career numbers for Barry Bonds to Babe Ruth's because of the different eras in which they played. Likewise, the career number of wins for Cy Young (511) and Roger Clemens(354) are hard to compare. In Cy Young's days, pitchers started the game and pretty much finished the game - they did not miss any decisions, they either won or they lost. In today's era, relievers play a huge role in the outcome of games. Saves were not even a stat in Cy Young's days.
Anyway, both of these feats are obviously impressive, regardless of choices that either player made late in their career (guilty or not). In looking at the stats, how many people have even hit 600 home runs? Five people! Griffey will be the sixth person here very soon. What about seven hundred home runs? Only three people. The 350 wins to me is less impressive when you consider that there is another active player with 349 wins (Greg Maddux). Clemens is only eighth on the list of most wins in a career. When you have outperformed everyone else in a particular category, that is obviously more impressive. Say what you want about the man Barry Bonds is, like him or not, he had an amazing ability to put the bat on the ball in an impressive fashion. Watching balls fly into McCovey Cove at PacBell Park was quite impressive and entertaining. Not to mention that you don't see too many balls fly into McCovey Cove since Bonds, or even his last couple of years. Bonds is the career leader in home runs as well as the single season champion in home runs. That to me this validates Bonds' feat of 755+ home runs being the most impressive of the two.
Bottom line on this issue - Roger's 350 sins...oops, I mean wins, is only good enough for eighth best, whereas 755 HR's makes Barry the top dog in his category!
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