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Should the US engage in two-party discussions with North Korea?

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Yes
62% 66 votes Total: 107 votes
No
38% 41 votes
Yes

The notion of holding two party talks with North Korea is much more complicated than one might expect. While it might seem to be a simple question, the response is quite complex. The issue is really about credibility. Since the Korean War; the plight of the North Korean people has been tragic. They have been sacrificed to the maintenance of the personality cult of their leader. For Kim Jong Il and his cronies, the stability of the regime is the ultimate priority, maintained through draconian human measures and the near total prevention of information flow to the people.

Consecutive US administrations have concluded that it is in the best interest of the global community to hold only multinational talks which include the other major players: Russia, Japan, South Korea and China. Each of the parties has a stake in the outcome. Although they don't want to publicly announce it, all believe in the eventual demise of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Because of their history, China has continued to use its influence to moderate world reaction to North Korea's antics, while South Korea has alternately used the carrot and stick approach to its northern neighbor. Unfortunately, the previous South Korean administrations "Sunshine" approach has ended without substantial impact. Japan has always had a problem with North Korea, actually both Koreas. While the Japanese are not without fault in the historical relationship, the recent interactions between the nations tend to lean morally towards the Japanese, considering their tolerance of naval interaction and the kidnappings of Japanese nationals by the North Korean State.

What then should the world make of the current affairs of North Korea? Nearly every nation on earth opposed the Democratic People's Republic of Korea's (DPRK), intention to fire another Taepo Dong long range missile across Japan. With the DPRK in the throes of economic disaster and repeatedly enduring famine, why would they do something so provocative and expensive? Why would "The Dear Leader" take the chance of further alienating the world? He had to know the world would condemn him and further tighten the political screws on his already poor nation. Of course he was aware. He was counting on it. He has been vilified by the west for most of his years as the head of the North Korean State. The west has publicly dismissed him and his government as "mad" and he was famously included in the "Axis of Evil." The reality of this man's regime is a different matter, and the history of his reign shows a leader very much in control of the North Korean Party Apparatus, skilled at playing the international political game. During his tenure, Kim Jong-Il has repeatedly demonstrated the ability to create scenarios that allow the North to gain without giving. During the famous four-party talks, with then President Carter, the Korean Peninsula Development Organization was created. In return for NOT doing something, i.e. initiating steps towards denuclearizing, North Korea gained the promise of two light water reactors which would produce 1,000 Megawatts of energy, to be built by other nations, and in the interim before final operational capability, the world would provide 500,000 tons of heavy fuel oil to the impoverished nation according to Chang Sun-Sup in his discussion: The KEDO Light Water Reactor Project: Its Implications for Peace and Inter-Korean Relations. Not a bad return on investment.

What then could the ailing leader of North Korea want this time? Perhaps he would simply like to show that he is still alive and kicking following the drama of his denied but probable stroke. He may also be ramping up the rhetoric about his war machine so that his nation will again have something to use in exchange for food, fuel and medicine should this next winter also include a famine. The centrally controlled agricultural policy has been abysmal and the resulting famines horrific. For years, experts have been declaring the regime on the verge of collapse, but he remains in power.

Now, in the face of global condemnation, he has challenged the new US administration with the test firing of an intermediate range ballistic missile theoretically capable of reaching the United States and of being armed with a nuclear warhead.

Is the notion that North Korea could perfect the technology to reach the United States just hubris and so much ideological blather? It would be a mistake to conclude so. For a change, the US might take a page from the North Korean TWwo Party Talksplay book. Why not engage in two-party talks-just the US and the DPRK? It costs us nothing and we may have much to gain.

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No

I have finished reading the BBC Article about North Korea test firing another missile in the morning of the 7th of June 2007. This comes after another missile test a few weeks back in which the missile fell in the East Sea [according to Korea] or the Sea of Japan [according to Japan]. It appears that the talks between the two Koreas, USA, Russia, China, and Japan have not produced anything significant. The following is what each nation wants.

North Korea since the end of the Cold War has been isolated, more so since Japan and USA have been going after their businesses in Tokyo and other areas of the world. North Korea's Kim Jong Il wants to maintain North Korea as it is. He is afraid that his regime will fall. Kim Jong Il [in his speeches broadcast on the Voice of Korea] has talked about a Jonestown Type Massacre [Guyana 1978] if his regime falls.
Kim Jong Il has also asked for direct talks with the USA instead of the Six Party Talks offered by China, Japan, Russia, and South Korea. Kim Jong Il also has a bank account in Macau which was frozen by the USA and it is still an ongoing battle in the financial areas.

In fact, according to the Christian Newspaper "Voice of Martyrs" he has increased the persecutions of Christians and "other undesirables". North Korea has also courted other businesses such as Fiat [which built a car factory in North Korea] and a British Law Firm called Hay, Kalb, and Associates [www.haykalb.com] into opening up shop in Pyongyang. North Korea has businesses in Dandong, China and the border region between Russia and North Korea.

Attempts to contact these entities by E Mail, and Telephone with regards to North Korea have been fruitless. Attempts to contact the Swedish Embassy in Pyongyang via the same methods were fruitless as well. This is not surprising.

For Visiting Dignitaries, North Korea even opened a Catholic Church, Protestant Church, and Orthodox Church although Foreign Dignitaries have compared the chorus of each church and they are the same chorus taken from a list of professional singers.

There has been North Koreans escaping to South Korea via China, Vietnam, Laos, and Thailand. There have been episodes of North Koreans escaping from North Korea and trying to find refuge in South Korean Embassies or in Foreign Schools in Beijing hoping to be transferred to South Korea.

North Korean Leader or Dictator Kim Jong Il and his elite have mixed Communism with a Korean Variant called Juche and has made it an official religion. Visitors to North Korea must first pay their respects by bowing down to the statue of Kim Jong Il and bestow a wreath after paying the tour guides.

Every day starts in North Korea with the sound of a large whistle at 7:00AM [Wake Up], 12:00PM [Lunch or Break], and 7:00PM [Sleep]. It is a grueling experience especially having to bow down to photos and statues of Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il at every turn. Pyongyang at night has a limited night life with the lights going out at 8:00PM [it reminds me of Akron Ohio in the 1970's].

South Korea is afraid of the North Korean Nuclear Tests and does not want to be seen provoking North Korea into a Korean War which can be fought with Nuclear Weapons. South Korea is also afraid that the fall of the Communist Regime in North Korea could produce an influx of North Koreans streaming across the Demilitarization Zone into South Korea.

South Korea had a Sunshine Policy of Dialogue with North Korea hoping for a gradual fall. According to the Sunshine Policy, when the gradual fall occurs, North Korea would be at par with South Korea. Yet there are a growing number of South Koreans who are losing patience with this Sunshine Policy because of Kim Jong Il's Temper Tantrums. Many South Koreans with the economic means to do so have left for Europe, Australia, and North America.

China has been an ally of North Korea since 1949. North Korea and China at that time signed a Friendship Treaty which allows both countries to come to the aid of each other. The Treaty also allowed China to intervene in North Korea in case the Pyongyang Regime were to fall. China does return any North Korean Refugees it receives to North Korea [another clause in the Friendship Treaty]. China does not want to exert too much pressure because it is also afraid of a collapse of the Communist Regime in North Korea.

China is concerned that the Communist Regime Collapse in North Korea could lead to anarchy in North Korea or a reunification with US Troops stationed on the border between Korea and China. China is also concerned about the number of North Koreans who would flee to China in case of such a collapse. Their position has been one of teaching North Korea the basics of Special Economic Zones and Special Autonomous Regions [like the ones being constructed in North Korea along the border with Russia and China].

Japan is angry at North Korea over the kidnapping of Japanese National by North Korean Spies in Japanese Beaches in the 1970s. Japan has closed almost all of the businesses operated by the North Korean Regime. It has also closed businesses where North Koreans in Japan [or regime supporters] could send money to North Korea [all of this according to NHK World/Radio Japan].

Russia was another supporter of North Korea during the Cold War. [It could be said that North Korea and Vietnam were the few communist countries under the influence of Russia [USSR] and China. North Korea was also a meeting place for any gradual rapprochement between Russia and China].

Russia has warned Kim Jong Il many times on the issue of Nuclear Weapons. [Kim Jong Il once visited Russia using the Train Service from Pyongyang to Moscow since Kim Jong Il is not keen on airplanes]. Russia [like China and South Korea] are worried that a collapse of the Communist Regime in North Korea could lead to anarchy, presence of US Troops on the Russia/Korea Border, and an influx of refugees into Russia.

USA [Republican/Democrat ic Elite] had an opportunity to resolve the North Korean Issue with the Korean War and lost it. Many People served in the Korea Theater only to see their goals plastered by the Republican/Democrati c/Communist Elite of the Cold War.

Now this Republican/Democrati c Elite wants North Korea to participate in Six Party Talks instead of talking directly with Pyongyang.

The Republicans/Democrat s wanted a six party talk instead of direct talks with Pyongyang taking into accounts problems at home. Everybody's talking and making promises. The only country that has stated that it does not trust North Korea to keep its promises is Japan. Japan has proved itself right in this debacle.

Learn more about this author, Roberto Alvarez-Galloso.
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