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Should the US pull out its troops regardless of whether Iraq is ready to defend its people?

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Yes
57% 1770 votes Total: 3103 votes
No
43% 1333 votes
Yes

If the US pulls out its troops today or a hundred years from now, the issues will be the same for Iraq. The age old frictions that have been present for thousand of years, will always resurface.

Israel and Palestine, Catholics and Protestants in Ireland, Muslims and Sikhs in the Indian and Pakistani sub continent, atheism and religions in Russia or the former USSR, fundamentalists and liberals in the US of A. The age old need of the human to believe in a higher entity and all its diverse interpretations, have tortured our parents, ourselves and our children.

Our misery stems from the endless interpretation of a belief we cannot prove, substantiate. We all have the need to believe in some higher power for a reason, since we have no scientific proof of its existence, we are killing each other in the name of a different concept, the one that allows us to find a higher need to survive it all.

We cannot even agree on our prehistoric need to believe, we are fighting with the manifestation, our very own interpretation of a need.

The differences in Iraq and anywhere in the world, for that matter, is a matter of the lack of freedom we allow to each other. A lack of freedom of interpretation in the manifestation of a deep seated need to believe.

All humans have a need to believe in a higher power, that is what differentiates us from animals. We are an integral part of evolution in our human form. Instead of celebrating our existence and nurture our endless brain capacity, we still have this age old need to fight each other. In our human state, this need transpires in the different ideological concepts we create from one common need.

The clash in Iraq are of religious and ethical interpretations of a common need.The same differences apparent all over the world. No military power, democracy, communist, socialist regime will ever be able to resolve the age old question. This age old question is very simple, who's interpretation of God is the real one!

We are destroying each other not for the fact that we need to believe that God exist, but for the different interpretations we have created in our own mind, according to the continent our ancestors lived in.

To have religious wars in the 21st century, because that is what they are, are a proof we have not evolved enough to realize the destructive nature of our human state, it is the ultimate proof that no political system will ever defeat our original need to experience the need to believe into a higher power in our very own way.

Despotism, Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, will have come and gone, the ancient battles between your God and mine will destroy any attempt of creating peace in our world. The issues are not political they are the different interpretations of the religious manifestations of a deep seated concept of a superior power.

As long as we will not be able to accept our different interpretations of a same need, we will have wars. The immediate reasons might be obscured by the latest political system in power, but over thousand of years, the ultimate struggle has been of religious differences.

When ever we will leave Iraq is irrelevant, the differences of ideology will prevail, beyond our lifetime and the one of our children.

The battle in the Middle East, between Israel and Palestine is not political it is religious. So are the majority of the wars ever fought on our planet.

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No

The United States should not pull out of Iraq until it is a stable, self-sustaining nation. To do so would bring further destabilization to the region, embolden our enemies and render the sacrifices of those in our military meaningless. This is still a war that can be won and it is a war that must be won for the sake of the future of America and all freedom-loving nations of the world.

The first result of an American pullout would be a declaration of victory by Osama Bin Laden and an instant recruiting tool for Al-Qaida. The world would be treated to a video-taped message in which the fugitive mass-murderer proclaims the weakness of America and praises the bravery and perseverance of all the noble martyrs who drove out the infidels. The rock-throwing, flag-burning masses in Islamic nations will take to the streets to celebrate the American defeat. The America-hating media (sadly many of them American themselves) will display the images with an inner glee so great it will be almost impossible for them to hide it. Those in our country who in their inexplicably suicidal national self-loathing have been longing for the humiliation of another Vietnam will have their Vietnam.

Most think that our soldiers will be happy to come home. Many no doubt will at first. But once these images sink in, they more than any of the rest of us will feel the sting of humiliation. The greatest military force on Earth will be portrayed as having lost to a severely outmatched but far more determined foe. This will be a far more stinging defeat than Vietnam. In Vietnam an American force fortified by large numbers of inexperienced draftees lost to a well-trained, highly organized enemy, leaving only after an appalling number of casualties made further combat untenable. In Iraq, a professional, highly trained volunteer American force will have been defeated by relatively small bands of terrorists and insurgents after suffering fewer casualties per year than traffic fatalities in America. I do not mean to diminish the American lives that have been lost. But our national reaction has been appallingly weak-kneed. We could never have won World War II with such a mindset. If we pull out of Iraq, one would have legitimate cause to believe that America lacks the stomach to win any future prolonged engagement.

But there is more at stake than America's ego. The precipitous absence of American troops will create a deadly power-vacuum in Iraq. The various Shiite and Sunni militias will wage a war far bloodier than what was seen during the days of the American presence. Terrorist groups will take advantage of the chaos to carve out save havens for themselves. Iran will seek to make Iraq a proxy state, much the same way Syria held sway over Lebanon for so many years. The conflict between Turkey and the Kurdish north of Iraq will escalate in the absence of American influence.

We will go from a situation that by most accounts has improved since the "surge", to one of complete chaos. We will go from a steadily dropping death rate to an explosion of violence and death. We will go from a situation where a major oil producing country is drawing closer to returning to full production and thereby providing an opportunity to increase global supply and reduce prices, to one where the oil industry is completely destroyed or taken over by Iran. It may sound superficial to bring oil into the equation, but last time I checked, oil was pretty important to the global economy.

There are few places in the world where our military would be more appropriately put to use than Iraq. The greatest threat to America is the spread of radical Islamic terrorism. The American presence in Iraq is working to build a modern, freedom-loving nation to serve as a beacon for a region that is for the most part darkened by poverty and violent, exploitative theology. Some would say we should focus on Afghanistan. Indeed we should, but not at the expense of losing Iraq. We still have troops deployed in Germany, Japan, North Korea, Cuba and Bosnia. We have maintained a troop presence after every war we fought since World War II (with the exception of Vietnam). Why are we so rabidly determined to squander our gains in Iraq by pulling out far earlier than we have in the wake of any other previous engagement?

It takes time to thoroughly defeat an insurgency. It takes time to completely transform a government. It will take time in this case in particular because we fought such a politically correct war that we did not sufficiently crush our enemies at the onset. But sadly, we have become an absurdly impatient society. One can only hope our leaders can find the fortitude to choose victory over defeat.

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