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Yes
Created on: March 15, 2009 Last Updated: March 17, 2009
The people of Connecticut were outraged this week over a proposal baning the Catholic diocese from controlling Parish finances. The Conneticut state capital was barraged with phone calls and e-mails calling the bill unconstitutional and a violation of separation of church and state. House republican, Larry Cafero, is criticizing the bill introduced by democrats. The idea originated from Greenwich resident, Tom Gallagher, who called for changes to the Religious Corporation Act providing more control on spending to create an atmosphere of mutual responsibility and respect. Key administrative duties would be dispersed among many talented people, placing financial spending stresses on others besides the Bishops and pastors. This bill,Gallagher suggests, would give Catholics in Connecticut more control over their own parish finances.
Several claims have been made suggesting that the actions of Mike Lawlor and Sen Adrew McDonald, two openly gay legislative champions who are strong supporters of the bill, are motivated by "revenge" towards the Catholic church. As major supports of the bill, they have been accused of "pay-back" for the Catholic influence on the defeat of the "gay marriage" bill late last year. They suggest a "look to civil law" to reform parishes controlled by bishops and pastors who have misappropriated funds and have little accountability to their lay members.
The arguments against this bill are many, and while, on the surface, the bill seems like nothing more than a step in the direction of socialism and more government control, there are several good arguments for it's acceptance. According to reports as of March 10, 2009, the bill is no longer being promoted due to protests against it. It will undoubtedly be re-considered in the future, as will "gay" marriage, and every other bill connected with the changing of America's self-perceptions. But, if this bill is written as it is represented in the media, a recruiting of Parish members who have expertise in areas of financial administration to, as a committee, appropriate the funds of the church, many say....why not?
In light of the Delray beach scandal, where the Bishops there were charged with misappropriating over 8.6 million dollars of the church's money for travel, rare coins and luxuries, change in the structure of Parish spending is needed. Past misappropriations are cited as evidence for change. Bishop Francis Guinan admitted to stealing $480,000 from his congregates, and Bishop John Skehan, 100,000. It seems the Catholic church is a bit deficient in controlling the actions of it's clergy, in the areas of financial crimes. It is the business of the state to intervene in matters of morality connected with other crimes. Is financial immorality off limits. If so, Why?
The bill does not suggest that government appointed trustees will be able to have control of the funds of the church, it only makes ways for accountability to occur within the Parish itself. While some find it objectionable for church members to view and contribute to decisions related to the spending of it's own contributions, at the government's intervention, many find it a plausible solution. The fear of an over-intrusive government with America's scenario ending up like a Ayn Rand novel has little credence in this case. As we have seen, even men dedicated to upholding morality and faith, have temptations that can be tried to it's limits. When sitting alone in a quiet office with 1000's of dollars in contributions to the church in front of you, wouldn't it be nice to have a few others there, also, saying "How shall we allocate this offering?" It would be liberating.
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No
Created on: March 12, 2009 Last Updated: November 07, 2009
Connecticut Wants What? Take Over the Catholic Diocese?
Is it possible that Connecticut is the one state that has forgotten, or chosen not to read the first Amendment of the Constitution, known as the Bill of Rights? Can you believe that they think that they can take over the Catholic Diocese for their financial gain? The First Amendment states; "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances". Is it remotely possible that they have never heard that there must be a separation between Church and State?
We are living in America, not the Soviet Union? If Connecticut is so bold as to try to take over a religious organization with the knowledge that it is against the Constitution; who will be next? This action sets a very dangerous example and precedent. Connecticut's government has mismanaged their money, and they seem to be of the opinion that they can find a cash cow to milk, in the Catholic Diocese. It is bad enough they are taxing us to death. Now the government actually thinks, that the right to take over private property. They seem to have the impression that they can do whatever is good for their wallets, and have little or no cares of what is good for the community!
What right does the government take over Churches, Synagogue or Private Property? It is stated very clearly in the Constitution that they have none! We as citizens of the United States of America, have the right to live our lives, practice our religion, or just worship our God, with no intervention from the government. We give money to our churches in the form of donations. We give money to our government in the form of taxes. Now the government wants to tax the money we give for donations. Do you think that their idea of 50/50, is for us to give, and for them to receive? Taxing donations is one of the most outrageous attempts to take over any religious organization, since this country was founded. The implications are so far reaching, that they are indescribable.
If our elected representatives do not represent us or the things that we want, we have the right to vote them out in the election in 2010. We should vote as an American, and not as Democrats, or Republicans. We need to vote for the person, or persons, that will best represent the things that we want and the things that are in the best interest of our country. Are we all together on this? If we just sit here and take this; then we deserve exactly what we get. We all have a voice, it is called a vote! Silence will only get you more of the same! Let's make sure our elected officials know that we want "Change". The change we want, is a change that we can live with, prosper, and thrive.
The government has made a mess of our economy. "Obamanomics" are failing, and now they want to tap into sources that they have no right to touch. We are living in a Democracy, that is supposed to be "government, by the people, and for the people". I am beginning to believe that the idea of sending our government officials, that represent "us", in the state and federal government, a used dried up tea bag, is a good idea. I have been told that the official mailing date should be April 1st. It worked in Boston, and if the whole country bands together, our elected officials might get the message. We will have our own "Tea Party".
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