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Positive reinforcement or correction based training: Which is the better method?

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Reinforce

by Scott Sylte

Created on: October 23, 2010   Last Updated: October 25, 2010

Positive reinforcement, rewards, praise, positive language tones, positive attitudes are far superior to "correction-based" or negative training methods as I refer to them. Correction-based, negative reinforcement, punishment oriented training methods don't work with humans, why would anyone expect the same repetition of negative-based training methods to work with canines?

When the focus of working with your dog becomes one of providing a healthy, safe, caring environment, growing a bond of loyalty, fairness, love, trust and respect is what almost naturally occurs. If this is how you treat your dog there is practically no need to "train" him, he will automatically show you the same respect. One of dog's strongest motivations is the desire to please the person with whom they've bonded. That's how feral dogs respond to each other. This faulty idea about alpha dogs and that humans must assume the alpha position is based upon a very faulty understanding of canine behavior. This "ALPHA idea has not really held water, it's been scientifically studied through close documented observations for many years among feral dogs, coyotes, wolves, hyenas, foxes, etc.

There is one technique I use which might be considered correction-based by some, but in reality it is not. That is what I and others who understand canine behavior call "pinning." When a dog does something which is out of the realm of canine behavior, such as an over stimulated act of aggression, protectiveness, etc. the handler simply "pins" the dog by placing his hand on the dog's withers and holds him down for a moment, then releases him.

Nothing has to be said as this is what dogs will naturally do to other dogs who exhibit behavior outside of their hierarchical status. This really is a more reinforcement than correction. It reinforces the idea in the dog's mind that they were behaving outside the realm of their hierarchical status. People also do this and it can be done both in positive or negative ways. Negative, correction-based training generally gives rise to resentment and fear. There are many business management styles based on fear and dominance, I know of no workers under those circumstances who are happy, healthy and well balanced at those workplaces. It is never a good thing for your dog to fear or not respect you.

If you and you dog have formed an excellent human-canine bond, your dog will almost instinctively know what you want or need him to do and even do things that you may not want or have even given any thought for him to do, but being a "thinking" dog, he will perform work and tasks for you that your need without even training him to do such. Dogs, like us are very social creatures. They function best in healthy positive social environments. If you focus on providing the best possible healthy positive social environment for your best friend, your dog, you will experience the most incredible fascination in your life.

Positive reinforcement, rewards, praise, positive language tones, positive attitudes are far superior to "correction-based" or negative training methods as I refer to them. Correction-based, negative reinforcement, punishment oriented training methods don't work with humans, why would anyone expect the same repetition of negative-based training methods to work with canines?

When the focus of working with your dog becomes one of providing a healthy, safe, caring environment, growing a bond of loyalty, fairness, love, trust and respect is what almost naturally occurs. If this is how you treat your dog there is practically no need to "train" him, he will automatically show you the same respect. One of dog's strongest motivations is the desire to please the person with whom they've bonded. That's how feral dogs respond to each other. This faulty idea about alpha dogs and that humans must assume the alpha position is based upon a very faulty understanding of canine behavior. This "ALPHA idea has not really held water, it's been scientifically studied through close documented observations for many years among feral dogs, coyotes, wolves, hyenas, foxes, etc.

There is one technique I use which might be considered correction-based by some, but in reality it is not. That is what I and others who understand canine behavior call "pinning." When a dog does something which is out of the realm of canine behavior, such as an over stimulated act of aggression, protectiveness, etc. the handler simply "pins" the dog by placing his hand on the dog's withers and holds him down for a moment, then releases him. Nothing has to be said as this is what dogs will naturally do to other dogs who exhibit behavior outside of their hierarchical status. This really is a more reinforcement than correction. It reinforces the idea in the dog's mind that they were behaving outside the realm of their hierarchical status. People also do this and it can be done both in positive or negative ways.

Negative, correction-based training generally gives rise to resentment and fear. There are many business management styles based on fear and dominance, I know of no workers under those circumstances who are happy, healthy and well balanced at those workplaces. It is never a good thing for your dog to fear or not respect you. If you and you dog have formed an excellent human-canine bond, your dog will almost instinctively know what you want or need him to do and even do things that you may not want or have even given any thought for him to do, but being a "thinking" dog, he will perform work and tasks for you that your need without even training him to do such.

Dogs, like us are very social creatures. They function best in healthy positive social environments. If you focus on providing the best possible healthy positive social environment for your best friend, your dog, you will experience the most incredible fascination in your life.

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Correct

by Christine Bennett

Created on: November 30, 2008   Last Updated: September 11, 2010

My side of the debate took some thinking about because actually this side the "correct' side could also be on the positive reinforce side, and vice versa,as that is what you doing when you correct, you reinforce, if you are doing it positively then you are rewarding with a happy out look.

However I am aware of what they are trying to say when they say reinforce, it is really repetition of the dog doing the correct thing, in other words saying to the dog, that it's particular behaviour is the correct one desired.

Correction is in my opinion very important in the training of an animal, because if bad behaviour is allowed, it will continue, and if bad behaviour is allowed then we can actually be positively reinforcing it, hence my reason for choosing the correction based side, when know trainers will frown and say all training should be by positive reinforcement.

When I had my new puppy, a chocolate Labrador called Coco, she was full of fun and loved to bite, or as we call it, mouth on anything and everything, including my hand or ankle. This action was corrected very simply by my action to her every time she did this and what I did was to cry out as if in pain. This is a natural response with puppies, they teach each other or rather tell each other - That hurts - don't bite so hard!'

You could say that this is reinforcement, but to me it is correction, I am teaching my puppy that if she bites my hand it hurts and so she is gentler next time.

Ever seen a pup grab a squeaky toy, as soon as it squeaks the pup releases it's hold a bit to gently hold the toy in it's mouth .

Correcting a dog does not mean you have to smack them, a dog quite quickly learns what NO means and that word doesn't have to be shouted it can be spoken with the same amount of volume but with a disapproving look on your face.

Your dog knows when you are not happy about something and the word you speak isn't important so long as it is always the same word, and NO is quick and easy.

I can say NO to my dog across a field and she will stop what she is doing, I introduced this word very early in her training to cover anything she does that i do not want her to do, so that the first time I caught her chewing something of mine I said no and corrected her action by replacing what she was chewing by a toy of her own.

Just like a child, she now knows that no means don't do something, but also that yes means she is ok to do what she's doing.

Each time I caught her I took away what she was chewing said no,without shouting,and replaced it with something she was allowed to have and said yes.

Of course I am reinforcing but I am also correcting what she is doing. I did not get angry I just said No took the article away gave her the other one and said yes,good girl.

I only had to do it twice with Coco but I do know some dogs take longer to learn, but correction is important to show them what is ours and what is theirs.

Coco knows very well that anything that belongs to her is given to her in the first instance, if it was never given to her then it is not hers, she is well aware of which toys are hers to chew, which ones she can take in the garden and which are house only toys, because each time she got it wrong I corrected her.

I  need reinforcement, I need correction, but carried out the right way.

If I didn't correct my dog she would believe it is all right to relieve herself anywhere she likes, my way of correcting her was letting her know how pleased I was when she relieved herself where I wanted her to, and reinforcing this action by giving it a name, for me, I tell her to get busy and she will now go on command wherever I ask her too.

I believe very strongly in praise and reward for right actions, my dog was taught to relieve herself in the gutter when possible, when we are out. Whenever she does this I tell her she is good, yes that's reinforcement of a good action.

Correction does not have to be cruel, it can be gentle and done in the same way that pups and other dogs teach each other, dogs know when you are not happy with something they have done, and know when you are happy too, but worst of all they know when they can get away with something, and I am sure every dog owner knows what I mean here.

Perhaps the title needs re assessing, if it is intended to mean correction based training by punishment, then positive reinforcement is definitely right but if it means correction based training by reward for correct action then both are right.

Positive reinforcement is correction based training, we reinforce the good behaviour with reward, the reward is correcting the behaviour because the dog gets a better result by doing what we want.

Owner and dog are happy, and that's a fantastic feeling, getting it right, gently.


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