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Which is more important: Freedom of religion or women's rights?

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Women
47% 16 votes Total: 34 votes
Religion
53% 18 votes
Women

If I were lecturing in an elementary or high school about a debate topic like this one, I would first of explain first things first and then second things second. I believe this is a valid topic for debate because it tackles two vital issues that only need to be elaborated especially in view of the prevailing concerns about gender such as what some people tried to raise as a point that Hilary is a being marginalized because she is a woman and religious matters such as that which has featured for Senator Obama and his Church pastor who made outrageous comments in his sermons.

First of all, before there was any religion on earth, there were women. Women came first before religion and therefore their rights are more important than religion. While women can endure and merge into the Creator, religions which are man-made organizations for belief or faith in God have no place in the abode of the Creator for we now know that, God if you will, is pure love and where there is pure love divisive man-made things like religion have no place. However, as spirit or souls, women have a divine right into the divine estate of Union with the Creator. But before God, we are not identified by our religious beliefs but rather by the deeds of love that we registered while we lived in this world.

For that reason, it is my belief and understanding that we need to understand women's rights much more than we need religious freedom which by itself alone without women, religion cannot exist. For, the truth is, religions only exist because humans (women) exist. In a void no religion can ever be let alone endure.

The founding fathers of this great nation knew this better and that was why they inscribed in the Declaration of Independence the words which I prefer to call the American Spirit rather than the American Dream, hence: All men are created equal and are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights among them, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. In this declaration, the Key word for me is the Creator from whence women have their origin. Before we seek to emphasize religious freedom, it is better to emphasize women rights first because without them religion can never be. Since women rights are similar to those of men, except that for decades women had been denied the right to vote, we need to educate the people of these rights, especially our women folk. When women know their rights well, they defend and fight for their rights including the right to freedom or religion. They can choose whatever religion they want. We all know that generally women (and men) are born into religion which means we do not choose what religions we want until we are old enough to use our personal faculty of discernment. This is why many people grow up in the religious beliefs of their parents only to convert (choose) to another religion of their choice. I say this to say, only humans can choose which religion they want to believe or follow and not vice versa; I mean that we the people are not chosen by religion. We choose them and therefore it is our rights that must come first before religious freedoms.

In a nutshell, my meaning is simple. As an integral part of God- the Creator, women, like men, are by nature essentially Divine and Perfect like God, for they are pure spirit only confused by the human mind with which they got in touch when they descended from the heavenly planes into the manifest world. So as pure as God in nature, our rights stand first before those of the things we have created in this world using our minds which have no place in pure-spirit planes of Godhood.

Equipped with that understanding, we can rightly conclude that as a country founded and based upon the rule of law and order, our laws prevail over the freedoms of religions or worship by individual citizens and residents etc. This is true because we exist here in the material world. So when we stand before the Creator, there, divine rights prevail and mark you I have not said religious rights but divine rights. When mortal man desires to merge into divine union man must transcend all aspects of belief, faith, or religion as well as those freedoms related to worldly liberty and the pursuit of material joy and happiness. For, beyond all of this, there is an everlasting adventure of infinite union with our Absolute Origin where freedoms are infinite, pure and perfect. This is what Jesus and all Perfect Mystics wish for all of us: Be ye perfect as my Father in heaven is perfect.

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Religion

Do you believe that women's rights are important? So do I. In fact, I believe that not just women but every person should be treated with equal respect and provided all the same rights and opportunities. Unfortunately, there are some people who believe differently than I. They believe that women are more like chattel than people, and that they should be treated more like animals than human beings. Though I disagree with these who disregard the rights of women and the religion which they serve, I must also ask myself which right I value more dearly.

This article is meant to weigh and balance our individual freedom to practice the religion of our choice and to have and hold our own system of beliefs against the freedom to live in a world where people are judged based upon individual merit rather than their stereotypical role. In this matter, I myself am in an internal conflict because of my deeply felt belief that all religions must be free to hold their beliefs and traditions sacrosanct, while I absolutely abhor those who would deny anyone an opportunity based upon things beyond their control (the standard race, gender, age, etc...).

In this case of a religion that subjugates women, I believe the right to practice religion outweighs the need to enforce non-discrimination based on gender requirements. While I do agree with the assertion that we must challenge religious institutions to eliminate their biases, I do believe we should not take any actions that support those prejudices either.

The primary question I believe that needs to be addressed in this discussion would actually fall along the lines of the old adage, "For evil to succeed, it only requires that good be silent." Would a failure to directly challenge religions that practice gender-based prejudice be the equivalent of promoting those same religions? My own answer to this is an unequivocal "No!"

This does not mean that I would not indirectly challenge these same religions. In fact, I believe that we should let them make their own choices, but as with all choices, there are consequences to those choices as well.

In a recent case in Kansas, a private school located in a little town named St. Mary's made national news with their actions. The town is monopolized by St. Pius X, a traditionalist branch of Catholicism. A female referee was scheduled to oversee the local high school girl's basketball game. The boy's game was scheduled immediately afterwards. However, the scheduled referee called out sick for the second game and a replacement was needed. To fill the gap, the woman referee agreed to stay and call the second game.

However, St. Pius tradition states that women cannot be placed in positions of authority over men, and thus, the boy's basketball team refused to take the floor. The school in question is a private school, but the opposing team was a public school, and the referees were provided under an agreement between the St. Pius School and the Kansas State High School Athletic Association (KSHSAA).

In this situation, I feel that the school, being a private institution, has the right to choose who is permitted to referee their basketball games. However, as the referees were provided under an agreement with the KSHSAA, the school must accept the officials chosen by the KSHSAA. In this particular case, KSHSAA has the right to provide whichever officials they so desire, and the private school, if not in agreement, has the right to forfeit the game.

In this situation, my personal solution would be to respect the tenets of their religion by not using female referees; however, in this case, to be fair to other schools, other referees and women in general, I would also refuse to provide male referees as well. I would choose to not provide any referees until the school agreed to accept all qualified personnel, regardless of gender.

Though this may seem like external coercion, I believe that this upholds both the freedom of this religion to have and practice their own beliefs, while also refusing to participate in their prejudicial practices. I also believe that if individuals (or groups) have the right to protest the school and the church.

I do believe that over time (measured in decades rather than years), the patience of the many will win over, and organizations such as St. Pius X will have their philosophy marginalized and kept out of the mainstream of society. This may not help women who currently fall under the St. Pius reign; however, I believe that it is more crucial for us to defend our right to hold our own beliefs (religion), even if it limits the possibility of some to overcome bias and prejudice. Those women who fall under the tenets of this religion will have to face their own challenges; however, they do have the possibility to escape the repression of equality that is evident in their religion.

Though that chance of escape may seem small or even insignificant, it does still exist, and I personally know several women who have already availed themselves of that exit. They will be the first to tell you that it was not an easy decision, giving up their family/friends for a better life; however, they also prove that escape is not impossible. However, this also brings up an entirely separate topic for debate.

On one last note, in any situation where subservience or religious tenets lead to a situation of abuse or neglect, I believe that it does become a criminal matter which should be handled in the light of prevailing laws, not by religious tenets.

Learn more about this author, Alan Fernald.
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