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On the Notion of Filmmakers Peaking Like Athletes
There is something special in the audacity that comes to light the moment a person declares the talent of someone they never knew but formerly admired to be well and permanently vacated. I think there is an unarticulated notion underlying a lot of people's discussions about filmmakers on the web. That a filmmakers body of work follows the same life trajectory as that of the athlete, peaking at some point in his relative youth and then plummeting downward forever after with the rate of travel the only question left to answer.
To me this is one the one hand a horrifyingly animalistic way of viewing the one greatest tool we humans have in terms of elevating ourselves above the animal kingdom: creativity. On the other hand it shows a lack of appreciation for the fact that disagreements with artists in a subjective world are inevitable. The more something is moving me the further it fills another with distaste. And we all have thousands or more differences and when highlighted have a choice of keeping our mind on the discrepancy or, when referring to the person who led you there, thinking back to earlier times when you appreciated their work.
I think how a person chooses to view the talent level of someone who made many films they liked after seeing one they didn't shows something about their basic personality. I was just reading someone on a film discussion forum lamenting the Coen Brothers' filmmaking abilities based on the movie Ladykillers. It was an old post that had been dredged up. He thought the Coens had "lost it" and "sunk their careers with this travesty". Many agreed with him!
I see a lot of things like this on the Internet. Perhaps it is the venue but it happens often enough to make me wonder if on some basic level it relates to optimism or pessimism being revealed in the viewer in the conclusions that are drawn often from small samples with such extreme conviction.
Here are some more examples of what I consider a common phenomenon, since I go to the message boards of sites like Internet Movie Database often:
I saw it happen with M. Nyght after The Village. I saw it happen to Raimi a little after taking on Spiderman 1 and 2, but most people liked the first one and loved the second one. Then Spiderman 3 comes out and people start disparaging him as if he were a completely different person. I also saw some of that for Jackson when taking on Lord of the Rings and then even more after King Kong. Ang Lee went from loved to hated by many on here after making The Hulk. Then there is Lucas, the Wachowski Brothers...
Best example: A great deal of people on here talked smack on the Coen Brothers after Ladykillers and Intolerable Cruelty, saying they had lost it and what not. I would always reply saying that the more films someone makes the more likely one is to dislike one of them, and the order of two you do not like coming out in a row should probably be viewed as coincidence and nothing more. That in the future they would make films those of us who did not like those two comedies would love...
After No Country for Old Men came out and was hailed as a masterpiece by many of those same people I asked about the old threads. Of course no one responded save one person who says, "Whatever. They may have got it back but for awhile they lost it." I thought losing it meant you were done making quality films, not just taking a break?
I do not think creative talent decreases with age but it seems like that is the popular perception and that coupled with people's arrogance that their perception of films is some sort of objective truth causes many to declare the talent of an artist they used to like dead the moment they disagree with them!
I hate it when people assume that just because a filmmaker (or in the case of the Coens, two) makes a movie or two in a row that they personally dislike that they have "lost it". The Coens are obviously extremely gifted. Their resume is quite intimidating. You do not just lose talent. This is not football where your body hits the wall after a certain period, so unless you think they are going senile in middle age...
An example which you may or may not agree with is De Palma. Did a great job on Scarface, then makes some decent films but mainly crap for years... so according to you he has "lost it". Then he comes along and makes Carlito's Way, which was spectacular. I guess he "regained it"? Or maybe he just finally made a movie I liked after years of making ones that did not appeal to me. (This is also why Writer-Directors tend to be more consistent than plain old Directors, as they control the source material as well as its interpretation). If you disagree with this example, there are hundreds more.
I hate this line of thinking for two reasons, other than the fact that talent never dies. One, directors hear what people like you say loud and clear; it in fact plays to one of their worst fears. They know that if they make one or two bad films in a row they will be labeled has-beens by the impatient masses. This encourages some to avoid riskier fare or films outside the genre they had success in, as well as causing some to wait years between films. Secondly, I think this attitude hurts the viewer who carries it. So say the Coens make not just one but two more films you do not like and you come on here posting about how they have lost it and should quit making movies, etc. Then they make another one you would normally love, but you are blinded by your own prejudice, and miss a good film because of it. Or if you are above being so stubborn, you take it back, making your original assumption erroneous.
Obvious, right? So why not think ahead and save yourself the run-around of saying they "lost it" or "got it back" according to which movies of theirs you did and did not like.
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Good Film Good Film, My Kingdom For A Good Film
As in any profession, one can stagnate. This day in age, it seems as though all of Hollywood has done so. The pride is gone. The formula is all that matters to the studios. And actors-don't bother, anything for a paycheck is the motto of most of the agencies who represent us-big or small. What is the percentage of gross the actor will make, and does it have a global theatrical releasing contract-if so, the actor will act it-no matter how horrible the script!
It doesn't take a great script to make a film that sells. Look at everything Tom Cruise has made in his career, other than "Vanilla Sky". Yet we keep going to see him-well, you do. I will watch one of his films when it is on free "on demand" but that is about it. My reasoning for not watching "A Listers" anymore-stagnancy. The business has forgotten about quality. In fact, the best films of the last five years are all indies. Why, you ask? It is simple. In my 28 years as a professional actor, I have worked with some of the "great directors". But recently something is starkly obvious. They don't make great films anymore! They all peaked a long time ago. And they aren't buying or writing great scripts anymore either. In fact the studios aren't looking for them. The studios force them to peak. They get to make one maybe two great movies, and then the studios require them to make the formulaic rubbish that lines the studios' and their stock-holder's pockets.
The studios won't stray from the formula. They are sticking so close to the formula that about 10% of what they make nowadays has already been done, either under a different title, or as a remake. There is a simple reason for this. The studios are all but broke. At $10 a ticket, it is pretty hard to get people into the seats of theaters. In fact, they don't even make films directed towards a middle aged audience any longer. How many of your parents are willing to part with ten bucks for a ninety minute movie, let alone a remake that spits upon the original? Probably none of them...unless your parents are very young and very hip-they aren't going to give up ten bucks and ninety minutes of their lives to see a good title ruined, or to watch a poorly directed, poorly written film that cost $250 million to make, that has no story line, no characters and opens with a gruesome murder and then full on sex between the main characters. The studios make films for $250 million bucks and then wonder why they are broke. Paramount had to lay off 15% of their work force after the flop of Tom Cruise's last blunder-in fact they parted ways with Cruise after that one-and they have been reeling ever since(forgive the pun).
That said, it is pretty hard for an A List director to make a good film. The studios don't want them. The studios want movies that will get 18-36 year old men into the seats. Lets face it, eighteen year olds want to see naked women and explosions. There were no naked women in Casablanca (though there are rumors that Madonna's company is remaking it, starring her, so get ready to see Sam say the "F" word and rap, and for Madonna to take off her top). There were no car chases in El Cid. There wasn't an "F" word in "Its A Wonderful Life". Find three films (that aren't animated for kids), in theaters now that don't have the "F" word in them at least 10 times, and I will eat this computer!
Can you imagine how fast Orson Wells is spinning in his grave?
So, peaking is not something that is discussed in the business, but it is a stark reality. The great filmmakers who exist in the studio system are there because at one time they made great movies. But now, they are past their prime to draw the young male audience. So whether they want to admit it, they have peaked. The industry has peaked on them. Spielberg isn't remaking "Porky's" and Coppola isn't remaking "Carnal Knowledge",though the studios would probably love that to happen.
When was the last time you saw a film that did really well at the box office that wasn't riddled with foul language, explosions, and graphic sex? Can't remember? Well, the only way you did, was if you were seeing "Horton Hears A Who" or "Curious George" with your kids.
The simple fact of the matter is those of us who remember the golden era of Hollywood are dinosaurs. I am only forty years old, but I am one who misses good films. I miss great characters, like the ones created by Paul Neumann, Spencer Tracy, James Stewart, and the list goes on. I don't think we are going to see a change either. As the industry continues down a path to dumb us all down with outrageous special effects, ultra-violence, and gratuitous sex, we keep going to see the films.
The great filmmakers of today are independent producers and directors who are making films for less than a million bucks and are lucky to get a DVD deal on the pictures, because they aren't selling. The general public is so desensitized to the graphic stuff, our attention span has dwindled to nothing. Those great filmmakers will get sucked into the studio system, after one of their films gets a great review. They will be offered all kinds of money to make a studio film. They will have to allow the studio to dumb down the script, add swearing, violence and a good sex scene or two, and will make them blow some stuff up....and before those great filmmakers know it-they have just peaked. They have found how easy it is to compromise creative principals for the all mighty dollar, and will never look back.
Now you can disagree. If you are 25 or younger, you don't remember when Rocky came out. That was the first film I ever saw in a theater without my parents in tow. Friends and I went to the theater in Reston, VA on a Friday. The movie was the greatest thing I had ever seen. It was gritty. The sorrow for Rocky's family and their station in life was palpable. The characters were so real you could smell them. Burgess Meredith was brilliant. I don't remember anyone saying anything in that film that was a bad word. There was no "sex". It was the highest grossing film of that year. It is a classic for my generation. Now, Sly aint Lawrence Olivier, but the film was brilliant none the less. Look at what Sly has made since. Rambo 1-5 ? The first one was more than enough-the system-THE STUDIO SYSTEM-peaked him. They made it clear to him that money was more important than the art-and the ensuing sequels to Rocky didn't live up to the first one. The stories stunk-the characters were less than larger than life-they became automatons. They were boring-as was Rocky. He wasn't fighting for his life-he was fighting for money-get the analogy?
So, when you ask if filmmakers peak, I say yes- not only do they peak-they are forced to peak by studio greed. They are forced to peak to maintain the status quo in Hollywood-the dollar is mightier than the pen in the movie business. If you write a smart script and want a studio to make it-be ready to be disappointed.
The independent film scene will never peak. It will always be free of studio intervention. If the movie wasn't funded by a large distributor, it is probably worth the $5 you will spend at a small art-house theater with sticky floors and a 30 foot screen. But for that five bucks, you will see a film that had to be made. You will see the labor of a group of people who worked for next to nothing, who mortgaged their lives to make the film, who hoped beyond all hope that they would make enough money on the film to pay off the debt incurred making it, only to turn around and make the next script they had sitting on their desks-another smart character driven film, directed by someone who doesn't drive a Ferrari, who doesn't eat sushi at a five star restaurant every night, and who has seen all of the classics, by all of the studio directors, made before the studio system forced them to peak and compromise all the principals that made them get into making films in the first place.
Matthew S. Harrison-Actor/Indep endent Producer
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