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Should America withdraw from Iraq if we are asked to?

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Should America remain in Iraq, if most Iraqis don't trust US and want US to leave? If America is occupying Iraq for the benefit of the Iraqis and they want us to be gone, why should there even be debate about American troops remaining there for anything but a stopgap? If American leaders won't listen to the citizens of a country we invaded, the people who we are supposedly there to help, then to whom will we listen? Ultimately, who should have the right to decide if American or other foreign troops should be occupying another country, if that country never attacked the occupiers? Is it enough to suspect that Saddam might have otherwise attacked America, although he never did and never said he would?

The Bush Doctrine of Pre-emptive Strikes was used to justify this war of choice. This dangerous so-called doctrine could be invoked to support military action against any potential American foe based on hearsay, innuendo or simple paranoia. It requires no hostile action or threat to be used. In effect, it allows America to attack and invade any country of its choosing for any reason or no reason at all. It is enough for American leaders to state that America feels potentially endangered. This opens up the use of American military assets to serve the personal or political interests and concerns of the president, without any repercussions, as long as the action is wrapped in the cloak of national security.

When America finds that it has been deceived and tricked into allowing a president to attack, invade and occupy a foreign land, what should it do? Certainly, America and the world at large, has the right to demand answers to tough questions. Why are there no Congressional hearings on the deceptions and artifices used to start this war and put American troops into harm's way? Why is the Bush Administration not called to task to explain why diplomacy was not used and is still not used instead of war? Why is war no longer the last resort?

These are not academic questions from an ivory tower. They are subjects that could and should be debated in public school civics classes. Every American citizen has the right to receive answers to such basic questions. Every Iraqi should also have the right to call for the UN Security Council or an International Court to deliberate over the legitimacy of the American occupation of his/her country. Apparently, the intimidation factor in controlling "the US Justice Dept." is not insignificant. Along with the ability to affect the public message with millions of employees direct and indirect, there is moral responsibility that goes with the special powers. If factual material evidence shows deliberate manipulation of evidence on the lead up to the invasion of Iraq, what are the chances that there was some level of collusion or acquiesence to 9-11? The special commission that studied the event ignored major aspects, such as the fact that WTC7 also fell into its footprint 10 hours after the other 2 towers. It cannot be forgotten that the Project for a New American Century of which Dick Cheney was a founding member, called for a new Pearl Harbor in order to pursue active foreign intervention.

The level of direct involvement and facilitation of treasionous actions is something which only Congress can truthfully investigate and it has been ignored assiduously by the Democratic leadership, under Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reed. Again, the degree of direct personal mal-feasance in the Executive Branch can only officially be reviewed by the US Congress, but if they refuse to exercise their Constitutional obligation, that by extension becomes the will of the people, through their duly elected representatives. It is irrelevant if the system is corrupt through the blatant quid pro quo of campaign contributions. If the majority of the American people really felt grossly violated, we want to believe that there would be a revolt. However, so far, people have not risen up. Instead, they are focussed on their own issues.

Thus, the current level of anger, frustration and betrayal has not gotten to the extent that a revolution has occurred, but there is major pain and hardship being experienced by large numbers of Americans. During February, 2007, there were 65,000 Americans who disappeared from the work force. The long term unemployed has grown and they are not even counted in the official statistics. There is no arguing the economic "recession", aggravated by high oil prices (over $100/Barrel), sub-prime mortgage crisis and now Real estate value loss in America (up to half of homes are worth less than the loans on them.) Ironically, US food prices continue to rise and wages are not being raised accordingly. The American financial system and its economic foundamentals are going through some gut-wrenching change.

Meanwhile, what has the rapid growth in the current federal budget deficit bought for us? What is happening with the money that America is agreeing to someday pay back to foreigners? The mushrooming long term US national debt is destroying the country of Iraq, where an estimated 70% are unemployed and most want nothing to do with the violence and coersion of US security forces. The Turkish military has invaded Iraqi Kurdistan and is preparing to establish Turkish bases inside Iraq, obviously with American acquiesence. The closeness of US Kurdish relations has taken a major blow. Symbols of America, such as the US flag, are no longer openly displayed. The one area of long term success for America in Iraq is suddenly in jeopardy due to Bush Administration mis-management. McCain continues to support the war and thus, has received a predictable endorsement from George W. Bush.

The American domestic situation continues to deteriorate and support for the profligate spending for destruction in Iraq is not popular (WOT annual budget estimate $800 billion). Clearly, the American people are confused by the Iraq War and issues surrounding it. We see no permament benefit at present or likely in the future from continuing to occupy a hostile country. The sooner that Washington D.C. internalizes that and implements it in reality, the better off we shall all be. So far, the Democrats have sacrificed everything in anticipation of the presidential election. The Republicans under Newt Gingrich did not hesitate to go after William Jefferson Clinton over lying over sexual indiscretions, so why should Democrats hesitate to investigate George Walker Bush over facts of material evidence leading to war? Why should funding the war be so automatic in a time if recessionary economy?

The American form of government is eventually self-correcting. The politicians cannot remain with hands over their eyes, ears and mouths indefinitely. In such weighty issues, the American people always do reach a concensus, whether it is achieved during the incumbent term of office or later. The history of the majority perspective of the American people on Iraq has shown tremendous change. When the US invaded Iraq, our people supported the action, based on Dabuya's fabricated claims of Saddam's involvement in 9-11 and with al-Qaeda and danger of WMDs to the US. However, as it became known that the pretenses were false and the Iraqis have rejected American tutelege for their country, the American people have withdrawn their support for the war. That was seen in the results of the 2006 mid-term elections as well as in numerous national polls before and since. Clearly, the American people want out of Iraq. It is a shame that our corrupt and weak US Congress refuses to act, until Dabuya is gone. That is the prime reason that public support for Congress is even lower than that for Bush. His legacy has be profoundly impacted by his dishonesty and unwillingness to listen to the people.

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The war in Iraq has been a complicated subject to talk about ever since it began back in 2003, and yet ever since it started all of a sudden there are millions of experts on war and tactics coming out of the wood-works to express their opinions, and incite hatred against the US government and the US soldiers themselves.

In WWI and WWII it was an honourable thing for men to go to war to fight for their country, fight to protect their loved ones from a possible overtaking and a possible future life run by dictatorships where everything they have ever lived for will be changed in the blink of an eye. So what happened for this feeling to change? Are the men and women fighting all over the world today, in the different wars against terrorism and tyranny, risking less than the men of the great wars? The answer is a simple no, the only thing that has changed is that the civilian population, who would never dream of picking up a rifle and entering the front lines of the trenches, who would never dream of driving down a road which is renowned for having 10-20 accurate improvised explosive devices attacks every single day, just to deliver a client safe and sound. Have changed their attitudes to the fact that they believe everything in this world can be resolved by talking in this day and age.

America has been in Iraq since 2003 along with another 39 countries that have been in and out of the country since the war began. the majority of countries have now left Iraq, and those that haven't left have cut down dramatically on troop numbers over the last few years, not because they have been asked to leave, but because of other commitments around the world in different war zones. The US originally went into Iraq with 250 000 troops and as of the last Tally in August 2008 they currently have 144 000 troops in country at present. This may seem a lot compared to every other country that has served over there, but in comparison of size and population of the USA and Iraq the population of US troops is very minimal compared to the amount of regions that need the Help and support of the US and coalition forces.

Throughout history, as far as the history records go back, British and US soldiers have fought there ground to bring peace and democracy all over the world. The only reason peace stays in these countries is because our soldiers win the battle and then stick around to make sure the things that we fight for, the reasons our soldiers die, is not taken away from us once we leave.

The Falkland Islands would have long been taken back by the Argentines if the British had walked away after the war, after a war with severe losses on each sides, but even today there is a higher population of soldiers there than civilians to make sure peace remains. The invasion of Cyprus by the Turkish stopped midway and has remained at a stalemate because the British still remain in times of peace to protect major vantage points along the green line that separates the country. Serbia would have continued the ethnic cleansing if it wasn't for the British and the US forces working together and sticking around for many years after the war was over.

Once you enter a country, a country of conflict by nature, you cannot walk away until the job is complete.

Already within the last 5 years, Iraq is becoming a better place. Within the last 3 months incidents in Baghdad alone have decreased from over 60 to approximately 5-10 per day. Our presence is working; it is helping the people and the government by us being there. The Iraqi army still has a lot to learn and so does the government and it will be our soldiers out there on the ground, that are forcing terrorism to stop overseas that will stop all of this before it reaches our homelands. There is no doubt, if we walked away now, everything that we have achieved in the last 5 years will all go to waste. The lives that have been lost will have been lost for pointless reasons.

It is up to us to continue the fight and see it out to the end. To put right what has been so wrong for many years.

I say this, telling you I will be standing there next to those brave soldiers every step of the way, in every way possible.

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