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While there is no denying that Brett Favre was a capable and successful quarterback, to rank him among the NFL's greatest is overselling his career and underselling his very real weaknesses as a quarterback.
Favre's early years certainly showed his genuine talents, as he led a Packers team that had been largely irrelevent (they famously refused to draft quarterback Joe Montana) into the 1990s and into their first sustained playoff success in many years. But as the 1990s wore on Favre found getting to the Superbowl was a struggle, in part because the Packers faced a roadblock in the Troy Aikman Dallas Cowboys that won three Lombardi Trophies in the mid-1990s, and in part because the only team Favre could beat in the playoffs was the Detroit Lions.
It was in 1996 that it all changed and the Packers reached Superbowl XXXI. But entering this game they faced a New England Patriots squad that had overtaken them in their previous meeting in 1994 but which was plagued with a running controversy involving lameduck coach Bill Parcells. Parcells had been hired in 1993 by James Orthwein, and when Foxboro Stadium owner Robert Kraft purchased the team in 1994 he retained Parcells and the control over personnel that Orthwein had given him. Parcells, however, had gone 21-27 in his first three years coaching the Patriots, and his one winning season (1994) had been such more because Parcells turned the offense over to quarterback Drew Bledsoe than because of his own leadership (best shown in New England's comeback win over the Minnesota Vikings in '94 when Parcells tore up his game plan after halftime and told Bledsoe to sling the ball as he pleased; the Patriots won 26-20 as a result).
Parcells also constantly inferred that he would quit the team after every season, and Kraft, who wanted to run the team as he ran his other businesses with the kind of open-ended cooperation between managers he was used to, didn't feel Parcells was serious enough about the team to trust with full control; he also wasn't pleased with Parcells' poor choices in free agent players.
As a result, Kraft took personnel control away from Parcells, and Parcells seethed through the season into Superbowl XXXI. When the big game finally approached, Parcells focused more on telephone calls to line up a new job as coach of the New York Jets than on properly preparing for the game at hand. The Patriots team thus took the Superdome field with what amounted to a patchwork game plan and an indifferent coach. Favre built a 27-14 lead but the Packers surrendered a third-quarter touchdown and could not move the ball with any consistency from halftime onward.
In stepped kick returner Desmond Howard, who'd already torched the Patriots once in the game and who delivered a 99-yard kick for the back-breaking touchdown. The Packers' 35-21 win was the team's third Superbowl triumph, but it also helped create the myth of Favre as a playoff winner. It was a myth that, surprisingly, wasn't toppled when the Denver Broncos shot down Favre and the Packers in Superbowl XXXII in a game where Favre's gunslinger method of quarterbacking led to turnovers. Nor was the myth toppled when the San Francisco Forty-Niners shot down the Packers at the gun of their 1998 playoff matchup.
And largely lost in the Favre mythos was the state of the NFC as well as his division, the NFC Central - later changed to NFC North following 2002 divisional realignment. The Packers faced only one consistently strong divisional foe through the majority of Favre's career, and that was the Minnesota Vikings; late in Favre's career the Chicago Bears became a power as the Vikings declined into mediocrity. The Detroit Lions, despite often beating Favre in the old Pontiac Silverdome, were never a serious division threat, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were only a decent club in their final years in the NFC Central, not a true threat.
The rest of the NFC wasn't much better, as the conference steadily lost ground to the AFC before Denver's two Superbowl triumphs heralded a tectonic shift of power balance toward the AFC. Since Superbowl XXXII the AFC has usually been the stronger - often by far - of the two conferences, winning the majority of interconference games to go with eight of eleven Superbowls starting with Denver's defeat of Green Bay.
But the myth kept getting pounded as Favre kept making the playoffs and kept throwing away games. He threw six interceptions against the St. Louis Rams in 2001 and then surrendered an easy Atlanta Falcons playoff win in Green Bay's own building in 2002. His only playoff wins since 1997 came against a grossly overrated Seattle Seahawks squad (twice) and a Forty-Niners squad that won just once in twelve career meetings with Favre. Favre blew it again against the Eagles in 2003 and then coughed up an embarassment against the Vikings, whom he'd swept in the regular season by identical 34-31 scores, in 2004 31-17. His final playoff appearence came in 2007 as he bested the Seahawks and then blew it against the NY Giants in a snow-covered slopfest of a 2007 NFC Championship Game in which the Giants bullied Favre and the Packers yet kept shooting themselves in the foot with penalties and two botched field goal tries, finally nailing it in overtime after Favre served up an interception on the opening play of the extra quarter.
Making the Hall of Fame is not an issue for Favre, as his win total and passing stats make clear. But a 12-10 playoff record testifies only to longevity rather than true ability, and his running habit of choking in the postseason is more in tune with the real Brett Favre than the regular season triumphs.
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Green Bay Packers quarterback, Brett Favre retired today. The entire state of Wisconsin sighed as their maverick rode off on his white horse never to return. He topped every significant quarterback statistic ever recorded. Here's a list of Brett Favre's personal and NFL #1s.
1) Most wins as a starting quarterback (160)
2) Most passing attempts (8,758)
3) Most passing yards (61,655)
4) Most passing touchdowns (442)
5) Three-time MVP (1995, 1996-1997)
6) Most consecutive games started (253)
7) Most interceptions (288)
In 1991, the Atlanta Falcons drafted him on Day Two. Coach Jerry Glanville was reluctant to acquire Favre and didn't play the rookie quarterback. The Southern Mississppi athlete was traded to the Packers. While there, he learned the mystique of Lambeau Field.
During the 1960s, Green Bay was known as Titletown. Bart Starr, Herb Adderley and John Taylor were the original "triplets". Head coach, Vince Lombardi won multiple Superbowls; including the famed Ice Bowl of 1967. The Packers reached the playoffs on two separate occasions only to be bounced out. However, with the Brett Favre acquisition and the hiring of Bill Walsh disciple, Mike Holmgren, Superbowl appearances and MVP nominations were on their way.
Before Tom Brady was Tom Brady, there was Brett Favre. The fearless quarterback made second-tier receivers #1 starters. Holmgren's West Coast offense fit his rubber-armed pupil perfectly. Favre resisted his coach off and on. Nevertheless, the Packers defeated the New England Patriots in 1997 to become Superbowl champions. In 1998, they lost a hard-fought contest against John Elway's Denver Broncos in their second Superbowl appearance.
In the following years, Favre raked more prodigious stats. His consecutive games swelled to over 200 straight, including one memorable Monday Night Football matchup in late 2005. Brett Favre played against the Oakland Raiders on the day of his father's death. He performed with reckless abandon. He ran around the field on a mission of remembrance. He threw a majestic pass into double coverage to wide receiver, Javon Walker. Green Bay won a dominating victory and Favre allowed fans to see his human side. Unlike any superstar athlete who competed in any sport, he embraced his supporters because their tragedies were his tragedies.
To begin the debate, sports analysts have this list of top NFL QBs of all-time.
1) Joe Montana
2) Johnny Unitas
3) John Elway -who defeated Brett Favre for his second Superbowl
4) Terry Bradshaw
5) Roger Staubach
6) Brett Favre
7) Dan Marino
8) Tom Brady
9) Sammy Baugh
10) Otto Graham/Peyton Manning
In my opinion, Favre should be ranked number #3. He is ruling all the important stats, and has two Superbowl appearances. Bradshaw has more appearances and more championship with four. Elway would've been the second coming of Bills quarterback, Jim Kelly without running back phenom, Terrell Davis. The Broncos got flattened in their first three visits. They won their last two. Also, Favre deserved to be ranked higher than Marino. He accumulated the better numbers.
As this generation begins to measure his career, Brady and Manning have the best shots at equalling and exceeding Favre's numbers. Manning has his own respectable 150-plus consecutive game streak and over 300 passing touchdowns. Brady reached 150 touchdowns this at a much faster pace, thanks to receiver extraordinare, Randy Moss. In addition, his three Superbowl championships have already put him in Canton.
Favre's career helped revive an obscure franchise. It brought season ticket holders back into their legendary stadium. The Packers are NFL's only people-owned team. A new era started at 9:00 am central time. Brett Favre faded into the sunset, leaving behind a huge shadow for the next guy.
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