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Created on: April 30, 2010 Last Updated: May 01, 2010
This is an extremely interesting and volatile subject open to broad interpretation. There are a few things that must be explained before I provide my specific opinion and answer. Some short research of the definition of what a politician is revealed a rather shocking discovery. I consulted Wikipedia, Merriam-Webster, dictionary-reference and each one had at least one derogatory definition contained in their index.
A politician was defined as someone skilled in the art or science of government, a person engaged in party politics or a person who holds political office. The previous were the basic positive definitions of what a politician is.
Each resource also specified a politician as a person interested in political office for selfish or other short-sighted reasons, one who is more concerned about gaining favor or retention of power than about maintaining principals or one who engages in politics purely for party goals or for their own advantage. According to this information a politician is not an honest person and more specifically the term politician is typically a derogatory term.
On the other side of the spectrum is the term statesman which is basically defined as a prominent distinguished person of high repute. A statesman is also noted as being a patriotic and unselfish person with great foresight who deals in the affairs of state.
Who is the most recent true statesman that has worked for the betterment of our Country? How many true statesmen have we actually had in the history of our government? Now before any of you begin to consider this question or research it I will make one disparaging note about our founding Father Ben Franklin.
Ben Franklin was initially a printer and he began participating in politics for the sole reason of obtaining the printing contract for Pennsylvania’s currency. Furthermore he also used his position as postmaster to obtain information from other places before rival printers could thereby increasing his business and along the way built a massive network of news contacts which gave him tremendous influence.
For a honest politician to be elected they must actually exist first and considering the common definition of what a politician is there is no such thing as a honest politician.
In considering the current state of our government it would be truly remarkable if a decent upstanding person were to be elected to a high office and remain untainted during their tenure. There is no such thing as an untainted truly honest politician and there probably never has been.
For the most part all of our politicians are masters of redirection and illusion. Very few if any of their actions are for the good of this country while not entailing some type of personal gain for themselves or their colleagues.
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Yes
Created on: April 05, 2008
It's simple to say that no honest politician can be elected because all politicians are corrupt. That's fine if you want to think superficially. The issue is much more complicated than a cheap stab at politicians. On the other hand, I'm not so naive as to believe that corruption does not exist in America. I wish all the things I learned in grade school about America being this wonderful, happy place where truth always prevails were still true. So, my answer is yes an honest politician can be elected, but my answer is conditional. I believe that an honest politician can get elected, BUT the general American populace must grow much more educated and interested in politics.
Let me explain myself more thoroughly. Think of the last two elections. Really, I encourage you to think back as far as you can remember, but I'll just analyze the last two. What were your choices? In 2004 you had Bush or Kerry, but what did you really have: A member of the Skulls and Bones and the New World Order or a member of the Skulls and Bones and the New World Order. Did it really matter which candidate you voted for. Sure, one had more liberal views, the other more conservative, but both were equally influenced and loyal to the same powers. If this is the point where you get off the bus yelling "conspiracy," then you were like me not long ago. We've been conditioned to believe that any talk of a conspiracy is laughable. The real truth is that most Americans believe there is something wrong, but fewer know what it is. The real truth is that conspiracy is the norm in America, and honesty on the part of the government should be the thing that seems outlandish to us; but again, we are constantly being conditioned to dismiss any talk of corruption and conspiracy. Unfortunately, these secret organizations are real and their members will admit both to membership and their goals. Carroll Quigley, historian, author, and recruiter of Bill Clinton to this elite group of oligarchic leaders brags in his book "Tragedy and Hope" about all they have been able to accomplish through fiscal dominance by means of the Federal Reserve to subversion of our education system, etc. He states in so many words that he wishes the organization would be more public; after all, they are so far progressed that they can't be stopped now.
Now think of the 2002 election: Bush or Gore. Again, your choice mattered little, because both horses in this race are funded by the same group. Do you really think Bush and Gore despise one another? Bush and Clinton? Sure, each wanted the pomp and grandeur of being president, but these guys are chums. They meet regularly in their roundtable discussions in the Council on Foreign Relations, which is not a governmental institution at all, but a club wherein these elitists meet. They simply give it a name that sounds governmental just like the Federal Reserve which, as the saying goes, is no more "federal" than Federal Express.
Now look at this year's elections. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Jon McCain are all members of the Council on Foreign Relations. They all attend the Bilderberg meetings and participate in the same discussions with the same international bankers and other foreign politicians that belong to these groups. It's like being asked to vote for Josef Stalin or Mao Zedong. Sure, they might have differing ideas on how to effect their goals, but the goals are the same.
So, is there hope? Absolutely. But until we stand up as Americans and kick out the establishment powers that be, we can never truly have a choice on who gets elected. We came close this time. I know of two honest candidates in this year's group: Romney and Paul. I don't care whether you agree with them or not; they are both honest men that have no ties to secret societies; they are, as far as I know, the only two. That's scary.
So what is an honest candidate up against? Well, first of all, he has to figure out how he is going to publicize himself. The vast majority of American media is controlled by the collective wealth of the men that belong to the Council on Foreign Relations, and it has been that way since 1917 when J.P. Morgan bought the 25 most powerful newspapers in the US because he was told that is all it would take to control the media, according to Stanley Monteith. So, the strongest weapon for gaining public favor is on the leash of those that want to quell the honest politician. Hence, an honest politician must do well in the few moments of media time he gets. It would also help, like in Romney's case, to have a vast personal fortune to use in buying airtime. He can also dominate the grass roots media like Youtube and Facebook and Helium.
Another obstacle to the honest politician is getting endorsements. It's easy if you belong to a secret society that has vaulted past presidents, governors, senators, members of the state department to high positions because these people will surely back their fellow member. Look at who has endorsed the current candidates and compare that with the membership lists of the Bilderberg group and the Council on Foreign Relations and the connections become painfully apparent. It's much more difficult for the honest politician to get endorsements; he has to earn them, and he has to do it from the narrow field of other honest people.
Finally, the honest politician can count on millions of dollars being spent by those to whom millions mean nothing to disparage his character in all the establishment media. It's not just getting your message out there, it's correcting the false statements made about you and maintaining the confidence of the American people when the number one influencer of the people is determined to sink you.
So, what needs to happen to elect an honest politician? I would suggest the following: first, Americans needs to stop depending on and swallowing whole-heartedly the nonsense that is passed on to us through the establishment media. Get your news from the internet. Continue to use Facebook and Youtube and Helium and spread the word.
Secondly, and most important, we must reject any person categorically that is a known member of the Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberg group, Skulls & Bones; anyone that has ever had ties with the New World Order or other secret society; or anyone that has ever even been sympathetic to the agenda of these organizations, which is to establish a world government, reduce the population to 500 million, and end religion as we know it. These are a few of their objectives.
If we can educate ourselves and determine not to be the pawns of these men, we will see honest politicians that will advance America. We have accomplished so much as a people, and we could do so much more if we unbridled ourselves from the burden of bondage to this cabal of power-hungry elitists who think continually of more ways to control and exploit us.
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