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Before beginning I would like to clarify a possible misnomer of Darwinism. Although, Darwinism is named after Charles Darwin; the apparent father of Evolution, Darwinism incorporates the theories of many ideologies. It could be stated as "a melting pot of ideas" from various pioneers addressing both social and biological changes that do indeed occur. In Wikipedia it states:
"The term was coined by Thomas Henry Huxley in April 1860, and was used to describe evolutionary concepts, including earlier concepts such as Malthusianism and Spencerism. In the late 19th century it came to mean the concept that natural selection was the sole mechanism of evolution, in contrast to Lamarckism, then around 1900 it was eclipsed by Mendelism until the modern evolutionary synthesis unified Darwin's and Gregor Mendel's ideas."
Although the debate over the emergence of a new species through evolutionary processes has yet to be "proven," there are less controversial theories that can and are shown, to be true. Natural selection is the most prevalent of these and said to be one of the cornerstones of modern biology. Wikipedia defines this as:
Natural selection is the process by which heritable traits that make it more likely for an organism to survive and successfully reproduce; become more common in a population over successive generations. It is a key mechanism of evolution.
The problem I see between "God" and "Darwinism" is ignorance; on the part of, well both sides actually. It is obvious that "Evolution"; being a "process", must necessarily require something to proceed. Evolution does not exclude God by any stretch of the imagination, neither does it try. Interpretationalists who "lack understanding" are the cause for the entire ruckus and we simply cannot teach the foolish that are unwilling "to gain understanding".
The fundamental idea of evolution is simply change...and it is empirically evident that things do indeed change. In order for a thing to change, it must first be an existent thing. Do they say that evolution is cause for the "Big Bang"? I do not believe so. Therefore creationists who wish to argue God must take their argument to the "Big Bang" theorists. There is no absolute verifiable scientific evidence that can show a complete transformative mutation of any one species to the next. So I would aver to say; the argument is but human natures incessant need of power and control (ego) that wishes to run the show. Let them argue, sooner or later their hot air will eventual die out. Or perhaps they will just transfer their energy consumption on to something other. These types are the ones who will never be satisfied and will always impede progress.
I wish to note that by the use of the word progress here; I am not saying progress does happen. The point I wish to make; clearly I will add, is: "for progress to actually occur, it requires an ability to "raise" the level of understanding in "principle" things, as they relate to nature itself." The idea of actual changes; as in evolution, is simply a non sequitur.
Principle things never change. Why this has eluded the minds of the seemingly intelligent scholars, philosophers, and scientists is indeed a great mystery to me; one who is considered foolish. There is a great quote that says: "You can't see the forest for the trees". This implies perception; as in subjective versus objective, which is man's greatest deceiver. We all see subjectively. This list is all inclusive, never exclusive: all the scientists, be them macro-ists or quantum physicists, all believers, all non-believers, all doctors, lawyers and professionals, all who posses PhD's and all who never graduated High School, all scholars, all philosophers, and all dreamers alike, from birth to death all "see" subjectively! If "THE TRUTH" be known it will never be known in this manner. It does not matter how tiny a particle/wave quantum mechanics digs up, it is still known observationally. Who then "knows" what "the-thing-itself" is in actuality?
I will even add that we do not know ourselves. If I as ask you "Who are you?" What will you say? Perhaps, I am a mother or a father, a doctor or a nurse, a mechanic or chemist, etc., etc., etc. This is not who I am or who you are; these are "what's", merely roles we project over there because positionally we cannot see our "self". If we cannot know ourselves objectively how can any of us claim to say we see anything objectively? Logic and reasoning is as "sound" as the premise. In ALL perception this premise is our understanding. I tell you "hey this is a cup" and now we both "see" the cup. We agree this is a cup, and say; "because we agree we both "see" the cup then; it is not only self-evidently a cup, but justifiably so". Dare I remind anyone who may be interested in such things; "self-evident" means evident to itself, not the observer. We do love to amuse ourselves with frivolous "delusions of grandeur" as it relates to our "knowledge". But in the end, all this knowledge will eventually lead right back to where the problem emerged; being "aware of self" to "self-aware". Or; better stated as, being objectively known to subjectively misunderstood.
Let us not waste time foolishly asking questions like "Can God and Darwinism coexist?" Isn't it obvious they already do exist? If the "God" idea, or the "Darwinism" idea, were not both already existent; here and now, how is it that we should ask such a question? If they did not exist here and now; we simply could not be asking this question, in the first place. Could one idea displace another's idea in truism? Which idea is true? What is true is objective. Who sees other than from their own eyes? Who understands other than their own experiential evidence? If I may be so bold as to suggest a rather obvious answer to my question; in the most non prejudicial manner I can muster, simply NO ONE!
Let me end this with a quote; from the bible, of all places:
1 Corinthians 1:19 "For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate." 20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?"
Does not the very idea of this question: "Can God and Darwinism coexist?" evidence the frustration of the so-called intelligent? ... or... Is it not also the foolishness of the wisdom of man's "lack of understanding"; that he should haggle incessantly, over subjective opinions?
Eccl 11:15 "Just as you do not know the mystery of how the breath comes to a baby being formed in a mother's womb; so you cannot understand the work of God, the Maker of all things."
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Can God and Darwin co-exist? A more accurate question would be: Can the Biblical account of creation and Darwinism both be correct? When both explanations are taken to their full conclusion, they cannot. Creationism. and Darwinism are two different worldviews of the same data. First let's define what we mean by the term "Darwinism" and "Creationism".
Darwinism is the theory of evolution by which all species descended from simple life forms to more complex over a long period of time (usually millions or years). Genetic mutation and natural selection are the mechanisms by which this takes place. Darwin based much of his conclusions on the different variety of animals he encountered while in the Galapagos Islands. It is obvious fact that species do change and genetic mutations do happen. Does this make Darwinism the victor of the conflict?
Unfortunate ly for Darwin, we know more about how life works from a cellular and molecular level than he could have in his time. Even though genetic mutations occur, they do not increase the genetic information only change what exists; in most cases information is removed. Without an increase of information you cannot achieve more complexity of life.
Mankind has long discovered that selective breeding can produce better stock. This is an example of natural selection that Darwin
discusses in "On the Origin of Species". In the animal kingdom the weak, sick, or lame usually die sooner and therefore do not get a chance to breed. This would seem to provider a stronger breed of animal overall. Again the limit is the amount of genetic information within the group, the benefit has limits.
The biggest question for Darwinism is how life itself came to be. How did life come from non-living things? No amount of chemical reactions or other natural process has been able to bring forth the simplest living cell.
So if we follow these claims of Darwinism we come up short on how life began or how we have what we see in the world now. Now let's look at the other side of the debate.
Creationism can be defined as special creation based on the accounts given in Genesis and other books contained in the Bible. We see God creating all varieties (kinds) of life (especially man) on purpose and in perfect harmony. Instead of millions of years we see this take place over a period of six days. By God's supernatural power life was given to non-life which answers the question Darwinism couldn't. The fall of man in Genesis chapter three caused the whole creation to come out of balance. This is why we see evidence of sickness and death in our world, from then to now. God provided the genetic information for all the different kinds of creatures. There weren't all the types of dogs we see today, there only needed to be two. They would have contained all the original genetic information needed for all varieties. So what is called evolution today is really just genetic variation within a particular kind.
The common theme from evolutionists is that Creationism is not science, but is that really true? Isaac Newton believed in creation, so are his works not scientific? What if a trained geologist becomes a Christian? He doesn't change to some type of Christian geology; the science is the same. This is where the worldview comes into play. The data both sides have is the same; same fossils, same observations, same universe. The difference is the interpretation of the evidence. If we follow what can be scientifically observed, tested, and measured, and follow that evidence you will come to the conclusion that natural processes alone cannot be the answer. Creationism is a logical answer.
Both sides of the debate require you to use faith, the questions you have to ask yourself is: what side does the evidence best fit?
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